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Originally Posted by mirevolver
Applying that model of $1m to the Swedish system already mentioned with 66% taxes. That would leave you with $340k. As someone who is already annoyed by the comparatively small amount taken from my paycheck in the US, I would be furious if I saw the government take 2/3 of my money. Under those circumstances, what would be the point of working for more money, after all, the government would just take more money from you.
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You're repeating yourself, but there's been new information. They don't take more money from you so that you make the same as if you made less. Even in a system out of control like Sweeden, many people living in my own neighborhood would take home something like $500k-$1m a year for their work. That's with a 2/3 tax. I wonder how much complaining you'd do with $1m a year. I'd have to give some of it away.
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Originally Posted by mirevolver
100% employment is great in theroy, but in 2005, the socialist welfare system in Germany hit a crisis when unemployment hit 12.5%, more than double the unemployment percentage in the US at the same time. People in Germany who lost their jobs and ended up in the welfare system were receiving funds that were comparable to what they were making when working, and many of them just lost the desire to go back to work. People on the welfare became overly dependant on the government's money and the German government found it was running out of welfare money.
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It's the people's money, not the government's. And they screwed up because they didn't commit to the welfare system.
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Originally Posted by mirevolver
In the socalist states in europe where gas has consistantly been 4 to 5 times higher than in the US, I have not seen a 200mpg vehicle rolling off their assmebly lines. I'll grant you that their vehicles are more fuel efficient than the average american car, but they're also half the size, which really has nothing to do with economic systems.
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150-170 mpg on a scooter isn't bad. Also, they drive less. And shit, what idiot really needs as much room as you can find in a Ford Explorer? Even with a 5 person family, that stupid 9 mpg piece of American consumerism is totally overkill. My wife's BMW can fit 5 adults. My car (95 eclipse) can fit two adults and two children. With the average family size in the US hovering around
3.14 (that's mom, pop, and baby), the idea that we all need these tanks is so far beyond ludicrous that people should be institutionalized for looking at them.
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Originally Posted by mirevolver
What innovations came out of China in the last 50 years? What innovations came out of Russia during soviet times? What innovations have come from Cuba since the 50s?
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China isn't socialist, it's fascist/capitalist... and Russia was able to compete with our space program for a fraction of the price while they were at their peak... and that was with the massive corruption. Imagine how it could have been had the people taken responsibility and removed the corrupt from office.