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Old 08-09-2007, 12:23 PM   #28 (permalink)
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i dont follow the last two terms in your list, jazz: they seem to refer to the same thing. democratic socialist regimes are in germany, france, uk, sweden, etc....and they are not particularly far "to the left" really--except perhaps from the extreme rightwing position that is somehow the norm in the united states.

as for direct democracy and its implementation: the longest run it has had was in classical athens, about 500 years if memory serves..since then in short runs--e.g. the paris commune, the kronstadt revolt, the hungarian revolution. if you want an idea of just how delighted were the representatives of soviet-style bureaucratic/state capitalism were by this direct democracy business, have a look at what happened to kronstadt after the revolt, and to hungry after about 2 weeks in oct-nov. 1956.
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