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Originally Posted by powerclown
The modern day version of socialism/communism espoused from the left is more a form of swashbuckling political protest and expression of class envy than an insightful endorsement of an effective form of governance imo.
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It's hard to call it class-ism, though, because a great deal of socialists in the US are living very comfortably. I can't speak for anyone else, but I feel it's the responsibility of the fortunate to help the less fortunate. I'm not suggesting doctors and janitors each make $65k a year. I'm just saying that no one in my country should ever starve. No one in my country should ever have to live on the street. No one in my country should be turned away from a hospital. It's about providing basic needs for everyone. I am friends with many homeless people downtown and I do everything I can to help them.
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Originally Posted by powerclown
Can anyone seriously believe that Chavez's Venezuela is a society on the rise? If I were a Venezuelan, I'd buy all the gold and precious stones I could get my hands on and leave the country ASAP. The USS Chavez is on borrowed time and headed straight for disaster. And guess who they'll be asking for help once they sink?
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You're right. They'll dip into the IMF or world bank for money. Right after the CIA assassinates their president. That's how this system works. If they don't play ball, they're killed and replaced.