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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
Then you'd know that these larger tribes broke themselves up in to....cells, for lack of a better term. Smaller populations are built for a 'group' effort.
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Why not larger? Leaving aside for the moment that our planet is overpopulated by our species, why can't the socialist structure be implemented on a city-state or even nation scale? Obviously, the Russians botched it from the get go, so I don't think we've seen a modern socialist nation... and yet here you are saying conclusively that they fail.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
You assume way too much. minimum wage earning doesn't mean one is lazy. There are many reasons why someone may be earning minimum wage, but I include laziness as one of them. I'm a damn good worker, I've been laid off. It happens when you work for someone else. Working for someone else puts you at THEIR discretion of whether or not they want you to work for them anymore. Just like you have the right to decide who you let in your house or not, a company owner has the right to decide who works for him or not.
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Those are the assumptions of capitalism. You're a damn good worker, but you're laid off. That goes against the idea that capitalism rewards hard work. Capitalism rewards selfishness and greed.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
I'm not ok with the government taking 18% of my money to help someone else, who makes less than I do, pay rent, get medical/dental insurance, pay for higher education, and/or get free groceries when I haven't had medical insurance for 13 years, my wife needs a heart transplant, the only working 4 wheeled vehicle I have has no AC, I can't afford my own fricking home, and I eat ramen noodles and hot dogs for lunch at work because it's cheaper than mcdonalds.
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Socialism isn't the government taking 18% to help someone else. Socialism is the government taking 18% to help everyone including you. Can you imagine paying something like $80 a month for full medical coverage with no copay? That's a system everyone, including you, could use in a socialist system of health care. You already use it with police and fire coverage. I wonder, if you could withhold the money you pay to the PD and Fire Department, would you? Would you be financially responsible for someone burning to death?
The funny thing is, the system you describe above is capitalist. You'd have enough for real food in a socialist system. If you didn't have enough, you'd get it for free while you worked out a way to find more income. Also, your wife would get a free heart transplant. 100% free. And the doctors would be just as good as any doctors in a capitalist system, except there would be less red tape to get procedures done, so you'd get the surgery without having to sell it to your doctor, who has to sell it to a board, who eventually has to sell it to someone who signs the checks.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
it's the most appropriate answer anyone else has ever given in this thread.
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It's patting yourself on the back.