Thread: Hugo Chavez
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:39 AM   #12 (permalink)
dksuddeth
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Originally Posted by willravel
It's not like he's lied to go to war or is spying on the population.
oh no, he's only attacked groups opposing him, thrown out capitalist ventures, and is pursuing a 'benevolent' (I use that term very loosely)dictatorship.


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Originally Posted by willravel
Hugo Chavez is a saint compared to our difficulties. Chavez has the potential to bring about real, independent, positive change in Latin America. Yes, there is a risk involved in the situation, but so far there's no indication of abuse.
at the risk of bringing the thread to a godwins end, I seem to recall that hitler was in the same position of ideals....at least until he reached that position of ultimate power.

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Originally Posted by host
....If Chavez keeps on at the rate he is going, they'll be no "poor" and "extremely poor" people living in Venezuela...and income there will be distributed more equally than it is in the US....I'm betting that our State Dept. will be reporting that stat....by next spring....but if there is a "liberal" media, in the US, why aren't they touting the dramatic economic improvements that our own US State Dept. is reporting are occurring, these last three years, in Chavez's Venezuela?

Yes, his actions go against the political-economic philosophies of US republicans and libertarians.....but wholesale destruction of the bill of rights is happening now in the US, but the bottom 150 million are not experiencing a more equitable distribution of income, or of wealth, here....are they?

Chavez, IMO, has taken measures that have already, and will continue to save large numbers of potentially lost lives that stemmed from the catalyst of extreme poverty and the desperation that such poverty triggers in people who arrive at a place where they feel that they have nothing left to lose....
...the man is bringing about needed changes, peacefully.

If there is no economic justice, is the justice that exists without it, relevant?
Host, the day the voters realize that they can vote themselves money from the coffers of the wealthy, is the day that democracy dies. Chavez knows this and is exploiting it to full advantage over his 'people' in order to remain in power. Socialism fails because it destroys personal freedom in pursuit of an economic balance, or as you term it, wealth redistribution. This is nothing more than politically correct words for legalized theft by a government.
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