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Old 08-04-2007, 10:26 PM   #88 (permalink)
pan6467
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Ah yes, it's all my fault. I am not willing to work within and try to change the party (tried it, takes money and press to win, the national party has the money and controls press releases, they choose ultimately who will run... look at Shrillary and Osaka Binaca... the press and party already determined it will be a Clinton/Obama ticket.... deny if you will but we all know it.)

It's my fault because my third party vote is not helping anyone..... what part of FUCK YOU DEMOCRATS do you not understand? I poured years and my soul into a party that shit on me, turned against my beliefs, sacrificed their integrity and refused to listen. I don't think I will EVER go back unless they change back. Again, with the GOP at least I know what they stand for and that they don't say one thing and do another.

It's my fault because I want to leave? Why because I have the integrity of my beliefs and know what I stand for and the Dems have no identity and will sell out their own constituents because the president threatened their vacation????

And for those who said "Well be happy they passed it, you don't know what evils Bush would have done if they hadn't."

WTF are you smoking? If they hadn't passed it and would have stood tall and said they felt it was wrong (which of course they say AFTER passing it... kinda like Iraq's war) they would have shown backbone..... if Bush would have tried anything, that would have led to a HUGE outcry for his impeachment. If the GOP had said the Dems were weak on the "War on Terror" (***which even GOP God Gingrich said doesn't exist today and that the GOP has had us duped***(see below reference)), the Dems could have said we'll work on a new bill when we get back that will protect rights with Bush and we'll get something done together... putting the ball back into the GOP's court.

But instead they sell out everyone and show they have no backbone..... did they even try to fight for a compromise?????

I think DC and Host you fool only yourself, I think after this we will see a HUGE poll increase for Bush and the GOP and the Dems and Congress fall into oblivion, and I don't see them EVER getting back up unless they change and comeback to the base they turned their backs on.

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Gingrich says war on terror 'phony'
Former speaker says energy independence is key

By BOB DEANS
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 08/03/07

Washington — Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Thursday the Bush administration is waging a "phony war" on terrorism, warning that the country is losing ground against the kind of Islamic radicals who attacked the country on Sept. 11, 2001.

A more effective approach, said Gingrich, would begin with a national energy strategy aimed at weaning the country from its reliance on imported oil and some of the regimes that petro-dollars support.

"None of you should believe we are winning this war. There is no evidence that we are winning this war," the ex-Georgian told a group of about 300 students attending a conference for collegiate conservatives.

Gingrich, who led the so-called Republican Revolution that won the GOP control of both houses of Congress in 1994 midterm elections, said more must be done to marshal national resources to combat Islamic militants at home and abroad and to prepare the country for future attack. He was unstinting in his criticism of his fellow Republicans, in the White House and on Capitol Hill.

"We were in charge for six years," he said, referring to the period between 2001 and early 2007, when the GOP controlled the White House and both houses of Congress. "I don't think you can look and say that was a great success."

Thursday's National Conservative Student Conference was sponsored by the Young America's Foundation, a Herndon, Va.-based group founded in the 1960s as a political counterpoint to the left-leaning activists who coalesced around the civil rights movement and opposition to the Vietnam War.

Gingrich retains strong support among conservatives and ranked fifth among possible Republican nominees behind former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, with the backing of 7 percent of those queried in a ABC News/Washington Post poll taken last week. The poll surveyed 403 Republicans and Republican-leaning adults nationwide and has a 5 percentage-point margin of error.

"I believe we need to find leaders who are prepared to tell the truth ... about the failures of the performance of Republicans ... failed bureaucracies ... about how dangerous the world is," he said when asked what kind of Republican he would back for president.

Gingrich has been promoting a weekly political newsletter he calls "Winning the Future." It's available free to those who leave their e-mail addresses at

www.winningthefuture.net, one of several Web sites he is connected with or operating. Gingrich began writing the newsletter in April 2006, and it now goes out to 311,000 readers each week, said Gingrich spokesman Rick Tyler.

Political salon

At another Web site — www.americansolutions.com — Gingrich is running a virtual political salon, with video clips, organizational information and contacts revolving around his conservative vision for the country's future. It asks supporters to join in an Internet "Solutions Day" on Sept. 27, the anniversary of Gingrich's so-called Contract With America, a slate of conservative policies he led through Congress as speaker of the House a decade and a half ago.

"What I'm trying to start is a new dialogue that is evidence-based," Gingrich said Thursday. "It doesn't start from the right wing, it doesn't start from the left wing," he said, but is an effort to get politicians and voters to "look honestly at the evidence of what isn't working and tell us how to change it."

Gingrich was interrupted with applause once, when he called for an end to the biting partisanship critics say has polarized national politics and paralyzed the workings of government.

"We have got to get past this partisan baloney, where I'm not allowed to say anything good about Hillary Clinton because 'I'm not a loyal Republican,' and she's not allowed to say anything good about me, or she's not a 'loyal' Democrat. What a stupid way to run a country."

He reserved his most pointed criticism for the administration's handling of the global campaign against terrorist groups.

"We've been engaged in a phony war," said Gingrich. "The only people who have been taking this seriously are the combat military."

His remarks seemed to reflect, in part, the findings of a National Intelligence Estimate made public last month.

In the estimate, the U.S. intelligence community concluded that six years of U.S. efforts to degrade the al-Qaida terrorist group had left the organization constrained but still potent, having "protected or regenerated" the capability to attack the United States in ways that have left the country "in a heightened threat environment."

"We have to take this seriously," said Gingrich.

"We used to be a serious country. When we got attacked at Pearl Harbor, we took on Imperial Japan, Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany," he said, referring to World War II.

"We beat all three in less than four years. We're about to enter the seventh year of this phony war against ... [terrorist groups], and we're losing."

Successful approach

Gingrich said he would lay out in a Sept. 10 speech what a successful U.S. approach to this threat would have looked like over the past six years.

"First of all, we have to have a national energy strategy, which basically says to the Saudis, 'We're not going to rely on you,' " he said.

The United States imports about 14 million barrels of oil a day, making up two-thirds of its total consumption.
Excuse me Dems, but what MAJOR DEM figure is coming out against the party to say:
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"I believe we need to find leaders who are prepared to tell the truth ... about the failures of the performance of Republicans ... failed bureaucracies ... about how dangerous the world is," he said when asked what kind of Republican he would back for president.
Edwards maybe..... but then the party is trying to silence him and make sure the press tries to put him in a negative light..... and HE'S THE ONLY DEM I COULD OR WOULD TRULY VOTE FOR.... well him and possibly Sherrod Brown.

Amazing how this party of "change" refuses to listen to what it's people truly want, and rather tries to tell their constituents what we want.

The Dems in control want to blame everyone else but themselves for the party's problems...... well they destroyed the party and they have no idea how to fix it except put out more blame, guilt and fear.
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