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Old 08-04-2007, 04:32 PM   #85 (permalink)
Willravel
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Originally Posted by dc_dux
Will....I know its not that simple, but neither is your third party option.

You see hope for a third party in the fact that Badnarik got less then 1% of the total vote? ...as did Nader in 2004 (down from about 3% in 2000). In fact, all of the third parties combined in 2004 received barely 1% nationwide. (link)

I temper my idealism with the reality that we have had a two-party system for 200+ years and there is no evidence of that changing anytime soon.
Are you willing to take responsibility for the next 200+ years of a two party system?

Hope for a third party comes from me turning people like you into people like me. Hope for you means you turning people like me into people like you...but what happens if you win vs. what happens if I win? Think about that. You've seen Democratic president, I know I have. The last good Democratic president was JFK. Carter, Johnson, and Clinton were okay by comparison to the GOP, of course, but at what point does the lesser of two evils finally sink in as an evil?

Now think about a USA where we have many parties spanning the broad spectrum of ideals that is the population. Imagine that instead of voting against someone out of what you see as necessity, you vote FOR someone. Imagine voting for someone. That's the directing I'm taking. And you can be sure that it's not only the road less traveled, but it's nearly impossible. When it comes to making the right decision, I don't care if it's difficult or popular.

As an aside, I've converted about 35 people to Green from Democrat and Republican in the past year or so. Cobb had about 118,000 votes in 2004. 35 times that is 4.13m just from the greens who voted. 305,000 people in the US are registered Green. If each of them converts 35 a year for the next two years, then you'll have 21,350,000 votes. Bush won with about 60m votes in 2004 (if you're a sucker and believe that), and Perot managed to get 20% of the votes in 1992. Let's stop pretending it's impossible.

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