I am still very much a centrist. My views above are not that liberal and they aren't all that conservative either (as the defined by the current political atmosphere). However, my views are "radical" solely because I refuse to sell them out to follow a party line.
I am more than willing to compromise, compromising is meeting at a point to which parties can work to get an acceptable result for the differing sides.
Our congress this weekend is proving they have no spine to stand up for their beliefs and will give in rather than demand compromise. Bush has shown he will say some terse words and shake a finger and Congress will cower in fear and give him what he wants.
No matter how it is spun that is the perception by the masses of what has happened and thus the Dems now look like a weak, cowering bunch that deserves their approval rating of 14% LOWER than Bush's I might add.
And RB as a person I love ya, but in political discussions, you come across as holier and better than thou and that is the attitude of the Democratic hierarchy .... we both have 1 vote though. The Party needs to listen to what the people are saying. You can spin it however you wish, and act all self righteous, but in the end it is that arrogance and self righteous bullshit that has turned the people away.
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HEY ZEUS F'N CRISP, Host, the Dems were elected to stand up to the dictator,
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is what the Dems ran on. Is Bush a dictator? No. BUT the Dems ran on people's fears that he had too much power and wasn't doing the right thing.
And the point I was making, which you seem to want not to address, is that the Dems give this great act about how they will fight Bush.... but when he says jump and threatens their vacation...... they will give him whatever he wants and then fucking act like it's in the best interest of the country, when they were just saying it wasn't.
That's standing up for your beliefs?????? Come on, RB, they didn't try to hold onto any of their beliefs, that wasn't compromise that was, "Daddy threatened to take away the car, we better make daddy happy and do what he says." And to say differently is only showing that you truly believe the majority of people have no brains.
I'd rather suffer the rest of my life in Bush type regimes, fighting for my beliefs than to give in with no fight and then cry over what has happened.
Sinatra said it best in the Paul Anka song and it describes the Democratic Party and my leaving to a tee.
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For what is a man, what has he got?
If not himself, then he has naught.
To say the things he truly feels;
And not the words of one who kneels.
The record shows I took the blows -
And did it my way!
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Let the Dems kneel and burn themselves..... Not me. FUCK THEM.... they sold my beliefs out, but I will not have my beliefs silenced.