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Old 08-04-2007, 06:55 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Ratman
I fail to see how any immigration employee when faced with an applicant that is not of traditional college age, applying for a non-education based visa, indeed a temporary visa that will require modification at some point in the future, would have any reason to assume that the applicant had aspirations of a college education, or have any responsibility to counsel the applicant of requirements to attain benefits of any kind related to registration with the selective service.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the Gov is not obligated to inform you of any rights you may or may not have, or the steps you may have to take to attain those rights. The US gov does not provide this service to American citizens born on American soil. If you don't pay attention in your high school civics class, too bad, so sad. If you want some benefit, it is your responsibility to find the hoops to jump through, and the most efficient way to jump through them. Do I wish it was different? Absolutely! Do I feel for someone that has to go through the same shit as everyone else, citizen or not? Absolutely not.
You're not bringing bad news, just repeating what's already been stated in this thread.

It is irrelevant whether or not anyone immigrating into the States is "of traditional college age". You are legally bound to either register or seek exemption with the selective service regardless. Failure to do so can result in 5 years in jail or 250k dollar fine. Are you following me yet? We're not talking about something you can choose to do if you want a college loan. This is something you have to do whether you go to college or not. It has nothing whatsoever to do with your "rights".

As for the rest of your off-topic tirade... The fact that I managed through the K1 visa process and got here and got into college as well should be enough indication that I am capable of researching things before I do them. However, this requires that the research material and the organizations, agencies or institutions involved provide all the necessary information somewhere, or that at the very least there is some mention of stuff like this in online guides, FAQs or message boards... Surprise: there wasn't. Probably because people applying for K1 visas and talking about them and giving advice on them in online forums aren't talking about college loan applications, so no one has a clue. In fact, I am willing to bet there is a considerable number of immigrants here that are below 25 and risking jail time because no one bothered to tell them they have the legal obligation to register. It is not relevant whether the jail time is actually enforced; it is enough that exists and the government sees no reason to make people aware of it, but reserve the right to punish for not doing it. That's bullshit.

If there is something that I am legally obligated to do, and not doing so can mean jail time or a huge fine, then yes, I do expect someone part of the immigration process to make me aware of it, so I am not walking around unaware and susceptible to charges for dodging something no one bothered to tell me I had to do.

Or are you suggesting that I should be calling various governmental agencies, ie Department of Justice etc, asking if they "have anything I need to sign or sign up for so I don't risk ending up in jail?"
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