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Old 07-31-2007, 10:23 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by joshbaumgartner
That may well be the case, you are right, unfortunately. It does probably mean that fundamental 'ground-up' reform to basically recreate the system in a fair manner, would probably have the effect of a nuclear bomb in the economy. It might be better in the end but the price would be high for the moment.

So how do we go about ratcheting back on improper spending and at the same time reapportioning the tax code in a fair manner, while at the same time keeping changes from being so violent as to kill the patient?
ace and joshb....aside from a progressive income tax heavily weighted against the those making the highest incomes (the top ten percent already own 70 percent of all US wealth), and by inheritance taxes on million dollar plus estates,
how would you fairly tax the folks detailed in this post...
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpos...2&postcount=21 ?

Neil Bush, GHW Bush, his brother, William Bush, their lawyer, James Baker, the VP Dick Cheney, GW Bush's buddy, Joe Allbaugh, and the CNP millionaire and Blackwater founder and sole owner, Erik Prince, as the post at the link above informs us, all made appreciable sums as a direct result of their connections, and the opportunities from the war in Iraq.

Progressive income taxes and inheritance taxes will return to the government some of what their unique connection/influence driven opportunities have brought to them....will return some of "their money" fo the original source where it came from....our tax dollars, appropriated for war and foreign policy objectives.

Can you point to any comparable "fairness" and offset to the rest of us, compared to the profits that my linked post shows went to these guys, that would be included in your tax "reform"?

If you support "reform" which taxes everyone equally, will it be as fair as the current system is to the rest of us, compared to how it treats the Bushes, Cheney, Baker, and Prince, and compared to the current system, which already results in the top ten percent owning 70 percent of everything, won't your "reform" lessen the obstacles to men like this, soon owning much of the remaining 30 percent of all wealth, too?

Isn't what these men did during a time of war, extreme, and isn't so few owning such a high percent of the wealth, now, extreme for , too, and isn't calling for "reform" that is even more friendly to the wealthiest, incoherent and self defeating?

Isn't it incumbant on the 90 percent of us who have little but our voting numbers to offset the other ten percent's wealth, power, and influence, to use that vote to counter all of their advantages, or use it to increase their advantages at our further expense....

Sheesh...it seems so obvious....but we are seeing these "let's be fairer in the way we tax those who have paid to convince us to tax them "fairer", opinions, coming from those who would seem to have no inclination to possess them.

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