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xepherys · 07-30-2007, 11:53 PM

Baraka, I must vehemently disagree. As a man raised by a single mother, I'm more in touch with my feelings than many of my female friends. I have no problems wearing my emotions on my sleeve, and occasionally do just that. However, relating masturbation to emotion, because it feels good, is not correlational.

People eat chocolate because it tastes good and makes them happy. Chocolate consumption, therefore, must be emotionally driven. Meh! Seriously? I play video games becuase they entertain me. I am not emotionally driven, however, to do so. It's instinctive, far below the level even of emotion, to please yourself. it's the rawest form of humanism. Instinct != emotion.

On a similar note, men do not (generally) have one night stands due to a combination of commitment-phobia and need for intimacy. See my point above. There are two reasons for one night stands. First, is simply sexual gratification. Perhaps some are phobic of commitment, perhaps some are not. At college age, when one night stands are most likely to occur, many people, females included, do not DESIRE a commitment. It's not a phobia, it's a reasonable and specific decision against it. This does not, however, preempt any carnal desire. The second reason for one night stands is conquest. This, actually, can be an emotional event, though in much the opposite way that you suppose is needed. In such a conquest a man desires to bolster his value among peers and friends. it isn't a self-worth issue, either, as many women seem to believe. If a guy feels a lack of self-worth, he isn't terribly likely to pursue such an event, but rather shy away from it. It is only an emotional situation insomuch as the man desires to feel admired by his peers.

It's not a stereotype, per se, either. Surely not all men are like this, just as all women are not bleeding heart sobfests. Perhaps I should say it IS a stereotype, but is so for a reason. It's not just American men either, or really even "western" men. It's just men. It's how we think, operate, move and motivate ourselves. A relationship is very emotional. Sex, however, does not need be and masturbation is pretty much never so.

07-30-2007, 11:53 PM	#122 (permalink)
xepherys <3 TFP Location: 17TLH2445607250	Baraka, I must vehemently disagree. As a man raised by a single mother, I'm more in touch with my feelings than many of my female friends. I have no problems wearing my emotions on my sleeve, and occasionally do just that. However, relating masturbation to emotion, because it feels good, is not correlational. People eat chocolate because it tastes good and makes them happy. Chocolate consumption, therefore, must be emotionally driven. Meh! Seriously? I play video games becuase they entertain me. I am not emotionally driven, however, to do so. It's instinctive, far below the level even of emotion, to please yourself. it's the rawest form of humanism. Instinct != emotion. On a similar note, men do not (generally) have one night stands due to a combination of commitment-phobia and need for intimacy. See my point above. There are two reasons for one night stands. First, is simply sexual gratification. Perhaps some are phobic of commitment, perhaps some are not. At college age, when one night stands are most likely to occur, many people, females included, do not DESIRE a commitment. It's not a phobia, it's a reasonable and specific decision against it. This does not, however, preempt any carnal desire. The second reason for one night stands is conquest. This, actually, can be an emotional event, though in much the opposite way that you suppose is needed. In such a conquest a man desires to bolster his value among peers and friends. it isn't a self-worth issue, either, as many women seem to believe. If a guy feels a lack of self-worth, he isn't terribly likely to pursue such an event, but rather shy away from it. It is only an emotional situation insomuch as the man desires to feel admired by his peers. It's not a stereotype, per se, either. Surely not all men are like this, just as all women are not bleeding heart sobfests. Perhaps I should say it IS a stereotype, but is so for a reason. It's not just American men either, or really even "western" men. It's just men. It's how we think, operate, move and motivate ourselves. A relationship is very emotional. Sex, however, does not need be and masturbation is pretty much never so. __________________ The prospect of achieving a peace agreement with the extremist group of MILF is almost impossible... -- Emmanuel Pinol, Governor of Cotobato My Homepage