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pan6467 · 07-28-2007, 09:32 PM

Ok, let me make a few things clear. These are my beliefs:

I believe if someone worked 40 years and has a house paid off, that they did their duty and shouldn't have to pay property taxes or income taxes. I don't think taking from those who succeeded and punishing them makes sense. I don't believe anyone who worked their ass off for 40 years should be taxed out of their home or forced to refinance or take "reverse mortgages" out so that their kids can't inherit the house and do what the decide. I don't believe in death taxes or estate taxes, for the average working family. However, I do think that billionaires should help society and should have to set up some type of independant funds to help the communities and nation. If they don't then tax 75%. BUT give them the choice. What we have now is NOT what this country was founded for. Taking away people's houses that worked hard and paid off the mortgage? Forcing their kids to sell the property to pay for their "reverse mortgages". I truly can't believe anyone would support this. I think the only ones that do are so full of hatred and wanting to show those who succeded whatever, that they have lost their sense of true fairness and humanity.

I believe companies if they move their factory/jobs to another area or country should be responsible for paying the worker's (they laid off/fired) education, unemployment and the community they left, 10 years worth of taxes, due upon the day they close.

I believe we need education to be the number 2 funded program in the country. I believe that not just kids but adults of all ages should have truly affordable access to college, this does not mean student loans and high tuitions. It means tuitions that can be afforded by someone working 40 hours, with more grants and scholarships available (this allows those who have been displaced training for a new job.

I believe defnse should be our #1 funded program and with that ONLY US companies building and providing technology. I believe that from Reagan to present we have shipped way too many of these jobs and technologies overseas. There was a reason that a toilet seat cost $1000. It was corporate welfare to keep companies R&D up and running, their costs down, and their prices competitive. Once we took that away, the companies had no incentives to keep jobs here and pay liveable wages with good benefits. Also, because of military funding we have seen cell phones, duct tape, microwaves, the internet, GPS, etc passed onto the populace.

I believe as part of defense, we should fund alternative energies and find renewable sources that we don't have to rely on any other country for.

I believe that we need to help people while down (Welfare, Unemployment, again Education, etc) but make the people realize that these are not "entitlements" nor "free lunches" but investments in their future and that they have to repay all benefits by providing 20 hours a week civil service/volunteer work in the community.

I believe moral lifestyle choices such as smoking, drinking, drugs, abortion, gay marriage, euthanasia, etc. are to be made by the communities and business owners, not government.

I believe that the government should be answerable to the people, thus US and state representatives should have monthly mandatory townhall meetings in the communities they represent and the Senators should have to visit each district in their state for a townhall meeting 1 time a year.

I believe that representatives, senators and the president should make as their salaries the average income level of the people they represent. This should inspire them to try to make sure their districts get fundings.

I believe waste should be cut (multimillion dollar bridges to nowhere, etc) and contracts to companies who provide shitty services (Halliburton with the food and supplies they gave our men in Iraq and Afghanistan) should be thoroughly investigated and not only have to pay the money back but can never recieve any governmental contract again.

I believe our armed forces should be used solely for defense of our nation and that we should work to have peaceful negotiations with every country, those that do not wish to be our friend, will not recieve 1 penny of aid from us.

I believe Isreal needs to work a lasting peace with their neighbors or they recieve no aid from us. This does not give their neighbors a free ride to hold out, their neighbors and countries in that region (Syria, Iran, Egypt, Libya, etc) must negotiate in faith also.

I believe we need to have open communications with China and demand they uphold our copyrights, trademarks and patents or we will no longer do business with them or any country that is caught infringing on them.

I believe companies should pay the government for independant labs to test drugs, etc. and that these labs are answerable only to the government and must show all records of testing.

That is what I believe, that is my utopian party platform. However, that doesn't exist, I understand that. But there has to be a party or group of people wanting those things also. The Dems. in some ways were close to that but strayed and became something that I don't recognize.

Some Repubs have been close to that but they have been silenced or for whatever reason once in power changed thier voices (Voinivich).

I understand compromise is needed and there is wiggle room for compromise in most of the above (the townhall meetings and pay....no compromise).

I think this is what the majority of Americans want. I don't believe that the majority is some whacked out far lefty nor do I believe that the majority is some right winged nutcase.... I believe the majority wants just a fair, honest government that truly spends tax dollars helping the people and not lining corporate pockets.

Unfortunately, both parties seem to want to line corporate pockets and not help the people. It's ass backwards and we need the right people to turn it around.

The Dems. in control don't want this, obviously because all they can do is spew hatred, blame and play partisanship games. The Repubs in control are no better, they spew hatred, throw Clinton's mistakes up, play partisanship and blame. Neither is doing anything positive.

It has been mentioned minimum wage was increased.... ooooo.... tell me exactly how that is helping anyone as inflation grows, jobs leave and the jobs created are paying shit wages with very few benefits. It truly accomplished nothing but good PR and even that is questionable.

07-28-2007, 09:32 PM	#27 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	Ok, let me make a few things clear. These are my beliefs: I believe if someone worked 40 years and has a house paid off, that they did their duty and shouldn't have to pay property taxes or income taxes. I don't think taking from those who succeeded and punishing them makes sense. I don't believe anyone who worked their ass off for 40 years should be taxed out of their home or forced to refinance or take "reverse mortgages" out so that their kids can't inherit the house and do what the decide. I don't believe in death taxes or estate taxes, for the average working family. However, I do think that billionaires should help society and should have to set up some type of independant funds to help the communities and nation. If they don't then tax 75%. BUT give them the choice. What we have now is NOT what this country was founded for. Taking away people's houses that worked hard and paid off the mortgage? Forcing their kids to sell the property to pay for their "reverse mortgages". I truly can't believe anyone would support this. I think the only ones that do are so full of hatred and wanting to show those who succeded whatever, that they have lost their sense of true fairness and humanity. I believe companies if they move their factory/jobs to another area or country should be responsible for paying the worker's (they laid off/fired) education, unemployment and the community they left, 10 years worth of taxes, due upon the day they close. I believe we need education to be the number 2 funded program in the country. I believe that not just kids but adults of all ages should have truly affordable access to college, this does not mean student loans and high tuitions. It means tuitions that can be afforded by someone working 40 hours, with more grants and scholarships available (this allows those who have been displaced training for a new job. I believe defnse should be our #1 funded program and with that ONLY US companies building and providing technology. I believe that from Reagan to present we have shipped way too many of these jobs and technologies overseas. There was a reason that a toilet seat cost $1000. It was corporate welfare to keep companies R&D up and running, their costs down, and their prices competitive. Once we took that away, the companies had no incentives to keep jobs here and pay liveable wages with good benefits. Also, because of military funding we have seen cell phones, duct tape, microwaves, the internet, GPS, etc passed onto the populace. I believe as part of defense, we should fund alternative energies and find renewable sources that we don't have to rely on any other country for. I believe that we need to help people while down (Welfare, Unemployment, again Education, etc) but make the people realize that these are not "entitlements" nor "free lunches" but investments in their future and that they have to repay all benefits by providing 20 hours a week civil service/volunteer work in the community. I believe moral lifestyle choices such as smoking, drinking, drugs, abortion, gay marriage, euthanasia, etc. are to be made by the communities and business owners, not government. I believe that the government should be answerable to the people, thus US and state representatives should have monthly mandatory townhall meetings in the communities they represent and the Senators should have to visit each district in their state for a townhall meeting 1 time a year. I believe that representatives, senators and the president should make as their salaries the average income level of the people they represent. This should inspire them to try to make sure their districts get fundings. I believe waste should be cut (multimillion dollar bridges to nowhere, etc) and contracts to companies who provide shitty services (Halliburton with the food and supplies they gave our men in Iraq and Afghanistan) should be thoroughly investigated and not only have to pay the money back but can never recieve any governmental contract again. I believe our armed forces should be used solely for defense of our nation and that we should work to have peaceful negotiations with every country, those that do not wish to be our friend, will not recieve 1 penny of aid from us. I believe Isreal needs to work a lasting peace with their neighbors or they recieve no aid from us. This does not give their neighbors a free ride to hold out, their neighbors and countries in that region (Syria, Iran, Egypt, Libya, etc) must negotiate in faith also. I believe we need to have open communications with China and demand they uphold our copyrights, trademarks and patents or we will no longer do business with them or any country that is caught infringing on them. I believe companies should pay the government for independant labs to test drugs, etc. and that these labs are answerable only to the government and must show all records of testing. That is what I believe, that is my utopian party platform. However, that doesn't exist, I understand that. But there has to be a party or group of people wanting those things also. The Dems. in some ways were close to that but strayed and became something that I don't recognize. Some Repubs have been close to that but they have been silenced or for whatever reason once in power changed thier voices (Voinivich). I understand compromise is needed and there is wiggle room for compromise in most of the above (the townhall meetings and pay....no compromise). I think this is what the majority of Americans want. I don't believe that the majority is some whacked out far lefty nor do I believe that the majority is some right winged nutcase.... I believe the majority wants just a fair, honest government that truly spends tax dollars helping the people and not lining corporate pockets. Unfortunately, both parties seem to want to line corporate pockets and not help the people. It's ass backwards and we need the right people to turn it around. The Dems. in control don't want this, obviously because all they can do is spew hatred, blame and play partisanship games. The Repubs in control are no better, they spew hatred, throw Clinton's mistakes up, play partisanship and blame. Neither is doing anything positive. It has been mentioned minimum wage was increased.... ooooo.... tell me exactly how that is helping anyone as inflation grows, jobs leave and the jobs created are paying shit wages with very few benefits. It truly accomplished nothing but good PR and even that is questionable. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"