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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
I don't disagree with any of this, but find none of it to be supportive of the solution of walking away.
And I don't think I ignore the complexity of the situation. In fact, the complexity of the situation forms the very basis of my opinion. Rather I find the idea of "walking away" to be completely void of comprehensive thought.
And this is OUR MESS, it may not be only our mess, but still it is OUR MESS.
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Well then, we are losing lives, are not gaining anything, except a even worse international reputation. I really cant say it was ever a mess by whose authority it was the States to fix anyway. So your defiantly right.. There must be no reasons to quit the front for a justifiable war on a people whose sole hobby in showing their massive appreciation for us is shielding enemy gunman, and blowing themselves and others up.
The only pretext I know of in which the "mess" could be considered ours is by the fact that we destabilized their government. Which was not a totally effective government in the first place. So I am still left wondering what "mess" of ours or our involvement in the war, could be deemed our responsibility to clean up. I do not know how many others have forgotten... But Iraq is actually another country and not our own, and the people over there are people too, who can just maybe think and come up with their own solutions. Never mind that the region has more history than the states, a longer past, yes... they must be savages because they have a mindset that allows them with utter conviction to die for something they believe in, I mean because they are unbelievably happy that there is another country dictating what beliefs they should abide be. Because of course those beliefs must be SO much better for everyone.
Furthermore, I find any claim that you understand the complexity of the situation and enough of the situation to have a accurate judgment in concerns with leaving or "walking away" from what proof gained by many deaths and much time has granted us with a seemingly not winnable situation by war effort standards to be.. how shall I say this... "void of comprehensive thought".
Not that I am making a effort to insult in anyway, but you voiced a opinion in which you are negative to walking away, and would not come up with a reasonable alternative mainly because I do not have faith in your abilities to solve the issue of the war when our generals who probably know much about the war think it is seeming to be a unavoidable and costly defeat. Which is when you enter a effort and walk away without crushing the enemy or achieving the aim of the effort to begin with.