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Originally Posted by powerclown
...The sex drive is one of those things that fucks up the possibility of a perfect world, or world peace or shangri-la. Wasn't sex outlawed in the movie "1984" so as to avoid subversive thought amongst the populace? Thats a specifically Freudian concept for example. Then there are issues surrounding the aggressive wellspring inherent in orgasms (the ultimate source of ego gratification), and castration as one of the most effective ways to remove much of the latent aggression in people and other animals. I would recommend Freud's Civilization & It's Discontents to anyone interested in the dynamic, or in just a plain cool book to read. |
I was going to call bringing up Sigmund Freud as an argument for human nature a straw man, but he (Roachboy) didn't bring it up. (I read his post about Freud before yours). Freud? Talk about theories that don't predict anything. Yikes. Psychodynamic theory, especially as espoused by Freud, was and is unfalsifiable. Now, I'm of the opinion that human nature exists. However, we can't go attributing random things to human nature willy nilly and random things to socialization and stop there. It isn't useful.
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roachboy, you and I are commenting on "human nature" from different perspectives. You, from a political viewpoint. Me, from a biological/psychological viewpoint. I would say that one can definitely examine the human condition outside of the political realm. Take the Indianapolis 500. From your perspective, you would be commenting on the occurrences within the race itself, the rules, the team strategies, the weather conditions, etc. I would be commenting upon the cars themselves...the different pieces and functions that make up the cars, exhaust, intake manifold, tires, windshield, etc.
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Very few active researchers approaching human psychology and behavior from a biological perspective would use Freud as support for their cause. Also, I would argue that the biological/psychological viewpoint requires accounting for both the occurences within the race itself and the car.