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Old 07-18-2007, 11:52 AM   #117 (permalink)
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Cyn, whatever you would like to think that the root causes and motivations for war, are....I still do not think that you grasp rb's point....

war happens because special interests prevail...I see it no differently than in this example;

In the post WWI midwest in 1920, farmers believed that they should still receive the wheat price, $3.00 per bushel, that they received during WWI.

If those farmers, (and we've recently seen peanut farmers lobbyist attempt to attach a subsidy for peanut storage to the supplemental war funding bill...) could convince other farmers to hold their wheat instead of weakening price demands by selling it...or if the wheat farmers could lobby to convince the congressional majority to subsidize the building of grain storage silos, they could have held in more wheat to keep prices up.

In 1916. the IWW, aka "Wobblies", successfully increased the day wage for housemaids by organizing the maids, to a degree, coordinating responses to ads for employment placed by wealthy matrons....scripting the applicants to ask for a uniform amount of pay....significantly higher than the existing rate....and providing a comfortable HQ for maids to meet and share their experiences in gaining hire wages with stricter parameters of what they would or would not do, related to their job descriptions....(see "Jane Street" Denver housemaids....)

My point is that our economic "system" would be "pecked" apart, either by the holders if capital buying the political influence and organization to keep those who sell their labor, or their independently produced products from organizing to a degree that they are able to present uniform price and other conditions on the capitalists, in exchange for their product or service (labor).

The "system" broke down in the late 1920's, unitl 1939, when the solution, as always....was war.

When the laborers and small producers can convince the government to protect their efforts to organize, or to build them storage silos...their disadvantage....choosing food on the table, next week, or going hungry.....selling their grain, or letting it rot under the open sky...is diminished, and the capitalists must pay more....lowering their profit margins....

It's a game, Cyn....and war is what invigorates it. You want to believe that it's about causes and principles, but for the US, it's mainly about the pursuit of an adequate return on investment, and for opportunties to achieve that return.

...and that all comes down to the struggle between labor and small producers, vs. capital....

Why do you think that ex-government officials fly to the Carlysle group, like moths to a flame?
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