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Old 07-16-2007, 09:27 AM   #50 (permalink)
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1. i do not know what a "war on terror" is. no-one does. "terror" is not a state.
2. if the goal of the bush people is "stabilizing the region" then they are doing a piss poor job of it, not only in the context of iraq, but also in the larger scheme of things.

what amazes me---even in the present context--is that it appears that the cheney "plan" is to start yet another war. the dick waving relative to iran will not stop.

have a look:

Quote:
Cheney pushes Bush to act on Iran


· Military solution back in favour as Rice loses out
· President 'not prepared to leave conflict unresolved'

Ewen MacAskill in Washington and Julian Borger
Monday July 16, 2007
The Guardian

The balance in the internal White House debate over Iran has shifted back in favour of military action before President George Bush leaves office in 18 months, the Guardian has learned.

The shift follows an internal review involving the White House, the Pentagon and the state department over the last month. Although the Bush administration is in deep trouble over Iraq, it remains focused on Iran. A well-placed source in Washington said: "Bush is not going to leave office with Iran still in limbo."

The White House claims that Iran, whose influence in the Middle East has increased significantly over the last six years, is intent on building a nuclear weapon and is arming insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The vice-president, Dick Cheney, has long favoured upping the threat of military action against Iran. He is being resisted by the secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, and the defence secretary, Robert Gates.

Last year Mr Bush came down in favour of Ms Rice, who along with Britain, France and Germany has been putting a diplomatic squeeze on Iran. But at a meeting of the White House, Pentagon and state department last month, Mr Cheney expressed frustration at the lack of progress and Mr Bush sided with him. "The balance has tilted. There is cause for concern," the source said this week.

Nick Burns, the undersecretary of state responsible for Iran and a career diplomat who is one of the main advocates of negotiation, told the meeting it was likely that diplomatic manoeuvring would still be continuing in January 2009. That assessment went down badly with Mr Cheney and Mr Bush.

"Cheney has limited capital left, but if he wanted to use all his capital on this one issue, he could still have an impact," said Patrick Cronin, the director of studies at the International Institute for Strategic Studies.

The Washington source said Mr Bush and Mr Cheney did not trust any potential successors in the White House, Republican or Democratic, to deal with Iran decisively. They are also reluctant for Israel to carry out any strikes because the US would get the blame in the region anyway.

"The red line is not in Iran. The red line is in Israel. If Israel is adamant it will attack, the US will have to take decisive action," Mr Cronin said. "The choices are: tell Israel no, let Israel do the job, or do the job yourself."

Almost half of the US's 277 warships are stationed close to Iran, including two aircraft carrier groups. The aircraft carrier USS Enterprise left Virginia last week for the Gulf. A Pentagon spokesman said it was to replace the USS Nimitz and there would be no overlap that would mean three carriers in Gulf at the same time.

No decision on military action is expected until next year. In the meantime, the state department will continue to pursue the diplomatic route.

Sporadic talks are under way between the EU foreign policy chief, Javier Solana, and Iran's top nuclear negotiator, Ali Larijani, on the possibility of a freeze in Iran's uranium enrichment programme. Tehran has so far refused to contemplate a freeze, but has provisionally agreed to another round of talks at the end of the month.

The head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, Mohamed ElBaradei, has said that there are signs of Iran slowing down work on the enrichment plant it is building in Natanz. Negotiations took place in Tehran last week between Iranian officials and the IAEA, which is seeking a full accounting of Iran's nuclear activities before Tehran disclosed its enrichment programme in 2003. The agency's deputy director general, Olli Heinonen, said two days of talks had produced "good results" and would continue.

At the UN, the US, Britain and France are trying to secure agreement from other security council members for a new round of sanctions against Iran. The US is pushing for economic sanctions that would include a freeze on the international dealings of another Iranian bank and a mega-engineering firm owned by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. Russia and China are resisting tougher measures.
source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2127115,00.html

so here we have a classical chicken-egg problem.
the americans blunder their way toward chaos in iraq.
they find themselves a faction amongst factions in a conflict that repeats the logic of british colonial domination--group played against group--except that it appears that the americans are not as adept at this game as the uk once was.
the conflict spirals down and down. no end in sight. no coherent plan of action. no way out.
the bush people are taking an epic pounding in the bizarre-o world of "the polls" the floating barometers to public opinion and badly designed questions working in tandem to produce a consistent illusion of pseudo-democratic feedback ("the polls"---a funny double-edged word)
no way out but 18 months left before the american people are politically free again and engage in the heavily mediated exercise of that pseudo-freedom by selecting from amongst the jukebox options they are presented with at the time.
in conservativeland, accepting responsibility for one's actions is understood as something that the poor should do. those with power, if they are conservative, need not worry about such trivialities. so it follows that the bush administration has preferred over the past months to argue, when the opportunity presents itself, that the scenario in iraq is at least in part a result of iranian "meddling" and not of american idiocy.
for cheney, it appears tht iran is now what the "hitlero-trotskyite wrecker" was for stalinism--the floating principle of that-which-goes-wrong, which intervenes from Outside to fuck up and otherwise Perfect System.
so it follows for cheney, as for stalin, that the logical response is to declare war on that floating principle of that-which-goes-wrong rather than consider the possibility that iraq is the debacle that it is because of american actions: for cheney-style conservatives, it is unthinkable that the americans can fuck up so there is no point in trying to coherently address that possibility: instead, let's press the case for war against the principle of that-which-can-go-wrong. or iran.

this really is lunacy, folks.
the ONLY register in which this idea makes even the SLIGHTEST bit of sense is one wholly conditioned by the political misfortunes of the administration itself which would have to be collapsed into an assessment of the american situation as a whole, not only in iraq, but everywhere.
another war, the thinking must go, would galvanize support for teh bush people, end this scary sense of lame-duckness and enable to bush people--dick cheney in particular--to go out in a blaze of western-film Glory.

it is lunacy.
this administration really should be stopped.
that this political system provides no way to stop them is an index of the extent to which that system is broken--not what it claims it is, not functional, not beneficial--broken, outmoded, bankrupt. over.

but the idea of invading iran--or bombing iran--DOES smack of "planning" in the george w bush "see-what-you-want-to-see-and-nothing-else" mode.
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