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Originally Posted by roachboy
yeah but sooner or later you need to specify what exactly you mean by war, will. so far as i can tell, you are using an extremely wide understanding of the term, which is more or less defined as the absence of peace--which is also not obvious, definition-wise. so for example under capitalism, you can have "peace" between states and ongoing routinized brutalization of human beings at the level of production at the same time. this would be a problem if by "war" you really mean "violence"....in which case, there would be war and nothing but war.
so i am confused.
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Originally Posted by Willravel, post #18
Cromp: war is wherever there is a state of violent, large scale conflict between two or more groups of people (wiki).
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A few of what I would consider recent wars, to give you an idea:
Israel vs. Lebanon, 2006
US and allied occupiers vs. Iraqi rebellion
JEM vs. Janjaweed, vs. AU, Darfur, 2003-present
US vs. Baath Iraqi Regime, 2003
Second Chechen War, 1999-present
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Originally Posted by Pan6467
Will, again, I reiterate, you cannot have peace unless everyone is exactly the same, and it is not in man's nature to be exactly the same. There will always be war, whether it's tribes in Africa, the Bloods and Crips and whatever gangs are out there, etc etc.... it will always exist.
I am willing to listen though to how you would find a lasting world peace. Tell me how to do it and I will be happy to stand beside you and "fight" so to speak for it with you.
But as long as there are naysayers..... there will be no peace.... the only way to get rid of naysayers is to kill them, destroy who they are and create that homogenized specimen example I gave above..... and that cannot exist. I will fight to my death to prevent it.
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Let's take two people with diametrically opposed viewpoints, like host and ace (first that came to mind). These two people often get into verbal battles, and clearly have a completely different outlook on life, different philosophies, and different politics. I would be willing to bet, though, if Host were president of the United States of host, and Ace were the leader of Aceland, they wouldn't go to war. In this crazy world, you can completely disagree with someone even on fundamental levels without going to war. If everyone who was different and had different viewpoints went to war, the US would have bombed France in 2002 and 2003. Why didn't that happen?