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Originally Posted by willravel
Pan, I wouldn't have expected you to be so pessimistic about this. A lot of my inspiration comes from Lennon and Ono. An end to war does not mean an end of the understanding of war. We have history to look upon for lessons, and war could just be a cautionary tale for generations after the last war. Also, you act as if war is the spice of life: it isn't. I've not been directly in a war, but I've done it vicariously through all of my friends who are currently in or have been in the military. I know enough about it to know that it destroys souls as well as lives. Several people I know have PTSD. You don't need PTSD to appreciate what peace means. Maybe I should ask you this: have you ever murdered anyone? Then how do you know what it means not to kill anyone?
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I'm not pessimistic, I'm being a realist.
Yes, I believe in what Lennon and Christ taught, peace is a great concept. However, it is impossible at this time and I recognize it may always be impossible.
My above argument shows my reasonings.
People desire peace as a whole and they see the destruction, but as long as there are sovereign countries there will be war.
As long as there are differences among peoples, there will be sovereign states.
Let's say the UN or some world governing body finds a way for countries to have peace. There will always be rogue nations to deal with, there will always be "terrorist" cells to deal with, eventually that spills out into countries.
Will, again, I reiterate, you cannot have peace unless everyone is exactly the same, and it is not in man's nature to be exactly the same. There will always be war, whether it's tribes in Africa, the Bloods and Crips and whatever gangs are out there, etc etc.... it will always exist.
I am willing to listen though to how you would find a lasting world peace. Tell me how to do it and I will be happy to stand beside you and "fight" so to speak for it with you.
But as long as there are naysayers..... there will be no peace.... the only way to get rid of naysayers is to kill them, destroy who they are and create that homogenized specimen example I gave above..... and that cannot exist. I will fight to my death to prevent it.