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Old 07-15-2007, 09:14 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by willravel
Normally I would take this as the final nail in the coffin of the Iraq War, but Bush and Cheney won't leave until they've left office one way or the other.
WTF? final nail in the coffin?

so... the democratically elected leader of the iraqi republic states that his countrymen are able to provide their own security and that's the final nail in the coffin?

Sounds like victory to me hombre.

i'm not saying that his statement is necessarily true. just that, if it were, it wouldn't be anything like a "nail in the coffin".

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Originally Posted by Elphaba
It is long past time to leave, but Bush will not do so under any circumstances as long as the oil sharing legislation is not passed. The Iraqi oil unions are speaking out, both in the US and elsewhere, revealing the rape of Iraqi resources that this "war" was all about.

I would love the possibility that Maliki double crossed his US promoters, by his invitation to leave without the oil legislation that they demanded.
i don't know even where to begin illustrating the flaws in these statements except to say that the oil sharing measures expected by the coalition are aimed at providing stability among iraqi groups, not to enrich foreign corporations. the oil fields don't fall along neat tribal/ethnic/sectarian lines. the legislation is meant to distribute the nation's wealth equitably to pre-empt future regional disputes.
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