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pan6467 · 07-15-2007, 07:02 AM

Will my point isn't that murder will always exist but that the negative emotions that cause murder, greed, envy, lust etc, reasons for murder will always exist.

If they exist then there will always be war because there will always be leaders to prey upon people's fears and project them onto other countries.

To play God an to try to take half of man's nature away, will be to ultimately destroy mankind.

The negatives that start war are the very things we need to recognize the positives and progress.

If I have a very good day, how will I know if I have never had a bad day?

If I love someone, how will I know that it is loveand appreciate it, nurse it, build it and keep it alive, if I do not know what hate is?

If I never fail, how do I know what success is?

It is impossible.

You will always have leaders that want more, that will bring forth greed, lust, desire, fear and so on. As long as we have national leaders like that we will know war.

The only way to get rid of the negative feelings so that there will be no war, is to have every single person on Earth treated the same, fed the same, paid the same, have identical possessions, look/act/believe/ exactly the same, you would have to destroy ALL art, you would have to make everything the exact same, you would have to get rid of colors, sounds, anything that someone may like that another doesn't..... but therein lies the rub, in order to do so, you destroy and take away man's individuality, and I for one, will not give away my individuality. I will kill to save it, I will band with others and we shall fight to the death .... in other words civil war.

Even if everyone did give up their individuality, who would oversee that everyone was the same? There would have to be leaders of some sort (even in a rotation), thus the leaders would be treated differently, to the point where one or a group would like the difference and take over. Of course he would need to treat others differently so that he would have allies, I am sure he would find some.

In doing so, all the greed/lust/anger/hatred/etc would again bubble to surface and war would be inevitable.

Individuals can be peaceful, mankind can have peace for a generation or two... but war is always inevitable, just as peace is always going to be the end result.

07-15-2007, 07:02 AM	#75 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	Will my point isn't that murder will always exist but that the negative emotions that cause murder, greed, envy, lust etc, reasons for murder will always exist. If they exist then there will always be war because there will always be leaders to prey upon people's fears and project them onto other countries. To play God an to try to take half of man's nature away, will be to ultimately destroy mankind. The negatives that start war are the very things we need to recognize the positives and progress. If I have a very good day, how will I know if I have never had a bad day? If I love someone, how will I know that it is loveand appreciate it, nurse it, build it and keep it alive, if I do not know what hate is? If I never fail, how do I know what success is? It is impossible. You will always have leaders that want more, that will bring forth greed, lust, desire, fear and so on. As long as we have national leaders like that we will know war. The only way to get rid of the negative feelings so that there will be no war, is to have every single person on Earth treated the same, fed the same, paid the same, have identical possessions, look/act/believe/ exactly the same, you would have to destroy ALL art, you would have to make everything the exact same, you would have to get rid of colors, sounds, anything that someone may like that another doesn't..... but therein lies the rub, in order to do so, you destroy and take away man's individuality, and I for one, will not give away my individuality. I will kill to save it, I will band with others and we shall fight to the death .... in other words civil war. Even if everyone did give up their individuality, who would oversee that everyone was the same? There would have to be leaders of some sort (even in a rotation), thus the leaders would be treated differently, to the point where one or a group would like the difference and take over. Of course he would need to treat others differently so that he would have allies, I am sure he would find some. In doing so, all the greed/lust/anger/hatred/etc would again bubble to surface and war would be inevitable. Individuals can be peaceful, mankind can have peace for a generation or two... but war is always inevitable, just as peace is always going to be the end result. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?" Last edited by pan6467; 07-15-2007 at 07:10 AM..