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Old 07-14-2007, 09:55 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by willravel
I've said this a few times, to many people, in order to spark interest in pursuit of my dream: I believe that all war can be ended in one generation.
Naive? Maybe. Impossible? No way.

/snip Step 3: How can we stop war? /snip
Rather than continuing with the current focus of how peace is impossible, I would like to further Will's OP on how war might be ended.

My first suggestion was to undercut the current war economy by public financing of elections. I concede that this is a mere baby step, and an extremely difficult objective to accomplish. But not impossible.

It is also necessary that other changes must be made. These are not in any particular order:

Pass a law that removes the attribution of a corporation as a "person." The legislation that accorded "all persons" equality (the post civil war amendments) was intended for "natural persons," not commercial entities. (If you are not aware of the importance of this, I would recommend Thom Hartman's website).

Cheney was lying (gee, golly, what a surprise) when he insisted that conservation was irrelevant to our oil dependency. Had Reagan not negated all of Carter's conservation initiatives, we would not be attempting to steal the oil of other countries today. The current wars of US initiation would not have been necessary.

Robert Kennedy, Jr. speaks to our oil "dependency" better than I can:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Heku9oTLy...elated&search=

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I am not an isolationist, but many of my suggestions that end war on the part of the US depends upon our country becoming self-sufficient once again.
More to follow.

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Originally Posted by jorgelito
So, bottom line, I am not inclined to believe that this thought experiment regarding the eradication of war in hinged upon gender. I still think the possible solution lies at the more core foundation of our humanity.

Hope that clarifies thing Elph
Thank you, jorgelito. That is the form of debate that I have always known you for.

Of course you are correct that war is not due to humanity alone. I was responding to the arguments that "war will always exist and I have my gun to prove it." Perhaps that is an unfair interpretation of the posts here, but some of them seemed to be dripping with testosterone.

I would like to return to Will's OP in thinking about how we can make war unnecessary. I honestly believe that a peace economy is possible in the US.
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