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Old 07-14-2007, 05:27 PM   #76 (permalink)
Martian
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Originally Posted by blahblah454
That is seriously sick, I don't know how people like that can even exist. I think that they should find an island somewhere and just put all these sick fucks on it and they can deal with themselves. Just deport every criminal and sick fucker like that onto the island and be gone with them.
The English tried that once, but the convicts didn't 'deal with themselves.' Instead they all started saying 'g'day, mate' and spending a lot of time at the beach.

The problem here I reckon is one of separating the visceral response. This is an atrocity and there's a very real, emotional reaction involved. I think, however, that ratbastid has demonstrated in his car example that it's not always (or even very often) a good idea to follow through on the emotion.

Capital punishment is an issue that I'm not going to go into here, except to say that I don't support it.

Aside from that, objectivity is absolutely crucial in determining what the appropriate resolution is here. You and I don't have all the facts, we don't know exactly what went down. We have a decidedly and understandably sensationalistic news report. Sensationalism sells, but it rarely offers the whole truth. Maybe one of the boys is an essentially good kid who got caught up in the mob and found himself too deep to back out. Maybe there's hope for one or two of these guys. Or maybe they're all sociopathic monsters who should never again see the light of day. There will be more arrests; it's entirely possible that someone not involved in any way will end up being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I don't have any of this information. How can I possibly suggest what an appropriate punishment would be?

Fire, I don't know what your experience was, but it sounds very sad. Nevertheless, you will not heal until you learn to let it go and be okay with what happened. I know that's going to sound strange to you, but it's true all the same. I hope that when your attacker is punished it'll give you some peace, but I don't think that's particularly likely.

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Originally Posted by Fire
...I NEVER go to my door after dark without a weapon handy- and NO ONE should go outside of their dwelling, in the dark, with a person unknown to them...
It saddens me a bit to know that there are people who are that afraid for their lives, whether it's a justified fear or not.
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