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pan6467 · 07-14-2007, 11:01 AM

Will, I love Lennon and what he preaches, but the world is not ready for an end to war. I agree with Cyrnal, you would have to eliminate fully all greed, pride, envy, hatreds, prejudices, etc.... and in order to do so you would in turn destroy mankind.

It is like everything in nature, there is positive and negative. without one the other cannot survive because they are codependant on each other.

Neighbors kill each other over land disputes in our cities and rural areas everyday. Family members kill family members over money everyday. Some people thrive only on negativity and cannot be happy until everyone else around them is miserable and doing "bad" things. These people, hatreds and anger will always be present.

The same is true about neighbors helping the other after their house burns down, showing love by volunteering in the community they live, families helping other members and being true "teams" (for lack of a better word). There are people who radiate great beauty and love in life and people like to be around them.

The only thing you can truly change is yourself, in doing so you can teach and show others what living as positively as you can, can do for ones self. Perhaps, you will get followers perhaps not, but you will live a better, happier, life.

I always have believed an old saying and Pacino emphasizes it in Scarface (the restaurant scene near the end when he is losing it and Michelle Pfeiffer leaves him): Without the negatives people would not know the positives and in not knowing the positives, when negative comes, negative will win.

It's great to dream, philosophize and think you can change the nature of man, but you are a fool to think you can do so in just 1 lifetime.

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pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	Will, I love Lennon and what he preaches, but the world is not ready for an end to war. I agree with Cyrnal, you would have to eliminate fully all greed, pride, envy, hatreds, prejudices, etc.... and in order to do so you would in turn destroy mankind. It is like everything in nature, there is positive and negative. without one the other cannot survive because they are codependant on each other. Neighbors kill each other over land disputes in our cities and rural areas everyday. Family members kill family members over money everyday. Some people thrive only on negativity and cannot be happy until everyone else around them is miserable and doing "bad" things. These people, hatreds and anger will always be present. The same is true about neighbors helping the other after their house burns down, showing love by volunteering in the community they live, families helping other members and being true "teams" (for lack of a better word). There are people who radiate great beauty and love in life and people like to be around them. The only thing you can truly change is yourself, in doing so you can teach and show others what living as positively as you can, can do for ones self. Perhaps, you will get followers perhaps not, but you will live a better, happier, life. I always have believed an old saying and Pacino emphasizes it in Scarface (the restaurant scene near the end when he is losing it and Michelle Pfeiffer leaves him): Without the negatives people would not know the positives and in not knowing the positives, when negative comes, negative will win. It's great to dream, philosophize and think you can change the nature of man, but you are a fool to think you can do so in just 1 lifetime. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?" Last edited by pan6467; 07-14-2007 at 11:08 AM..