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Cynthetiq · 07-13-2007, 11:24 PM

[QUOTE=willravel]I can't help but think that's war. Everyone has an amazing justification for why they need to kill someone. I've heard quite a few. We've all heard Bush go on. I'm sure everyone who's ever taken a life can claim that "freedom" or "protecting my country/family/friends/etc." was a valid reason. So if this hypothetical phantom bent on killing you and your family steps over that line, you've already made up your mind that you're taking his life.

What if you were the last person on the planet willing to make that claim? What if it was you who stood between war and peace?

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But you are making this not about conflict but about war. What is the definition of war? Crompsin seems to have been within the "conflict" but cannot locate the war. At what point does a conflict change and become war? And why is then a conflict acceptable for carnage and death?

And they're wrong, of course. I wonder, what works better for stopping gangs: prevention or reaction?

That's after a million levels of conflict, though. It's not like conflict, then war. I would think that there can be, somewhere between conflict and war, a time when someone can stop the escalation.

And those things can be prevented. Poverty breeds desperation. Without poverty, that desperation subsides. I'd say the cold blood killings come from mental illness. That can also be prevented.

You may think that these are phantoms. Maybe you don't know about such things because you don't see them firsthand. Maybe you don't think about them because you didn't have family members who were beheaded. No, there are many stories, but to you there is no justification for the retribution. While that dogma and standard works for you, it does not work for many others. Ask a Palastinian or a Lebanese about the Israeli soldier that took their family member's life. Or the Jew who's children were just playing in the street, or the man who's wife was just on the bus going to work.

Poverty is only but one aspect I posted, Jealousy? the deadly sin Lust, men have started wars over a piece of ass. Can the jealousy of affections of another be prevented? I don't think so. Brother has fough brother, in literature Cain versus Abel.

I think it's great that you believe that it may one day stop. But I'm a realist, and see that history has shown that we cannot. All I have to do is look at the human condition as it is before it is educated. Look a some children with some toys, you suddenly haves and have nots, and wants begin to bubble over until one child takes something from someone else.