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Old 07-11-2007, 08:49 AM   #29 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by Bashmeol
I was depressed once really bad when I was younger, I don't think it was the to the point where I wanted to commit suicide or anything but I was definetly in a bad state.

While I beleive personal freedoms are very important, I also belevie that people can make bad decisions. I don't want to try and prevent you from fufilling what you want to do but I see it that if you were just to give it a little bit of time you might change your mind. To me, to commit suicide is just wasting your life, try to be thankful for the things you can do because there are alot of people in worse situations (the sick, poor, imprisoned). Often I think suicide is just a result of people feeling sorry for themselves, they want to avoid their problem and take the easy route out.

While I cannot testify that this would work, I have read in places that distracting yourself from your own problems and helping others with theirs can help (Although I could see this going the opposite direction in some cases).



Religion dosen't have any buisness in this because this is a govermental affair. Nowhere in the world does it say you have to be a good person, but most people try to be a "good" person because they care about others. If someone was a tad depressed wouldn't you AND that person feel better if you could help them out of their problem instead of just letting them kick the bucket?

What I have said above does not include the terminaly sick and others who are very close to death and in great suffering.
The topic is based on euthanasia, not someone depressed and wanting to die because some guy/gal left them, that was how I answered.

If we want to talk suicide by depression, okay, let's do.

I am a drug and alcohol counselor, I work with people everyday. (Those are my credentials, not worth much but .....)

I know what it is like to be so depressed and feel the world is totally against you and wanting to die. I learned how to get out of that, plus most of the time, I was crying out for attention. (My personal experience.)

Now, if someone is depressed to the point they want to take their own life, there is plenty of help out there, hell just a 911 to the local police will do the job. But if someone wants to truly take their own life because they are so depressed, so tired of living with whatever mental pain they have, who am I to pass judgement on them?

Did they take the easy way out? Don't know, don't care.

My personal history leads me to the belief that if someone jumps off a skyscraper, takes a gun to their head, etc. they were far more serious than I ever could be or was.

Too me what's the difference between a deepened depression that one cannot get out of and causes them to decide to take their life and someone bed ridden with a cancer riddled body in excruciating pain?

To say mental anguish is never as bad as physical pain is bullshit to me. Sometimes the mental is worse than any physical pain could ever be, and if you live with that mental pain for too long, death maybe the only answer, as with euthanasia.

Doesn't mean I condone it, just that I understand and don't think anyone needs to pass judgement on those that do kill themselves, until you know their pain.
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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"
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