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Originally Posted by dc_dux
tecoyah:
Investigations in the limited time that Democrats have been able to control oversight hearings have revealed numerous illegal activities:
* violations of the Civil Rights act on at least 50 occasions at DOJ by using political affiliation in hiring career attorneys
* violations of the Hatch Act by the administrator of GSA for conducting political activities during work works at the request of the WH ....numerous other agencies still under investigation
* illegal restrictions on Freedom of Information requests at numerous agencies
* influence peddling (related to Abramoff)`by top officials at Dept of Interior
* and the latest revelations of violations of law, executive orders and procedures re: abuse of civil liberties by the FBI and false statements by the AG
to highlight just a few that have been uncovered in the last 6 months.
It is difficult, if not impossible, for Congress to perform its oversight responsibility if the administration ignores subpoenas, claims executive privilege at every turn, destroys e-mails, commits perjury in order to prevent disclosure of potentially illegal activity...all at levels not seen before by any previous administration in my lifetime.
The most bogus position of those you described:
4) The nature of these investigations make it compelling to plead the 5th or forget, rather than risk prosecution for perjury
is bullshit.....pleading the 5th ...ir conveniently "forgetting" to protect yourself from potential prosecution is one thing..but there is no legal or moral justification for using the 5th and stonewalling to avoid telling the truth about others, which appears to be a common practice among this administration.
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While few will question the accuracy of what you posted here, there are no charges filed against the players in this web of deceit. Until such time as legal proceedings become viable, they are innocent according to the Law. This is the crux of
Ace's argument, and again I find it valid. It is overwhelmingly clear that obstruction has become a tool for the administration but this does not change the fact that no charges have been filed. In fact the only case to be brought thus far of any consequence was forced to focus on this very tactic, if it intended to meet with any successful prosecution.
Those avoiding testimony are likely doing so at the direction of Administration officials, and as of now they are allowed to do so. The blatant disregard for subpoena power given to congress may very well be the downfall of the obstruction tactic in the long run. As it is, Ace is still correct in his opinion, they are innocent until
proven guilty in a court of law. That they are trying to prevent access to the information that proves the guilt is beside that point.