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Old 07-10-2007, 06:24 PM   #228 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ngdawg
When everyone screams, no one can listen.

What's "terrorism, the threat of disease, natural disasters, and instability in the oil supply in the middle east into the mix, and really, it just makes sense to learn how to give birth alone." have to do with anything? You had your kids at home, so the oil supply gets better and there will be no more earthquakes? How many terrorists do you think were born from c-sections in hospitals? Who cares?

I just mentioned those because some freebirthers, and I am one of them, are into preparations for survival. You know, if the hospitals get over run with patients who are dying from an infectious disease, like during a pandemic, and no healthy women want to birth in a hospital. It happened in toronto during that SARS scare. I read an article that quoted a home birth midwife who said she usually had one call a month requesting her services. During the sars outbreak, she said she had twenty calls a week. There are not enough midwives to care for all of the pregnant women who would want to birth at home during a pandemic.


Interestingly enough, you pose a question yet haven't answered most posed to you. Those that wish to participate have stated their positions regarding both freebirthing and hospital choices. When down on freebirthing, the why's have been stated, but not debated. Are they accurate then?
Shall I ask again the freebirthing thinking behind the following? Or shall we make it 0 for 3?


Breech - Yes, women freebirth breech babes. Here is a link to a video of a footling breech twin who was born at home alone. Her brother was born head first but the twin came out as a foot presentation. Born at home unassisted, no problem.

Malformations and/or congenital defects - Can't share this with you because it is not online, but a woman whose birth story was in the New Nativity News Letter that I just received in the mail gave birth to a child who had downs at home unassisted. She had premonitions that something was off with her child, but was still grateful to birth him alone at home. Outside of her story, I don't know what else to say.

Multiples - Twins are being born at home alone after moms doing own prenatals. I have a friend in LA who gave birth to 42 week gestated twins no problem. I have not heard about any triplets being born at home alone

Gestational maladies such as toxemia and diabetes - Diabetes is debunked by Henci Goer Here:

Toxemia is a disease of malnutrition


Large babies - Large babies are being born at home alone. The biggest one in recent memory was Leilah McCrackens son who was a twelve pounder. My son Andy was 11 pounds 12 ounces, and I have heard of many women giving birth to nine and ten pound babies.

Premature labor - We treat it as a natural pre labor moment, and if the babe comes way too early most moms go to the hospital for help, but I have not read about any extreme preemies being born to freebirthers, except for that vegan couple whose baby died and they were prosecuted for neglect. You know the one that got all that press.

Maternal health and nutrition - we talk and talk and talk about nutrition and health in the chat rooms

According to the March of Dimes, the US is not worse than 3rd world countries in birth stats:
mortality rates Only 4 countries have lower rates.

Who? Last I checked Japan, Sweden, Finalnd, Switzerland, Canada, Singopore, HOng Kong, Netherlands, France, Ireland, Germany, Denmark, Norway, Scotland, Australia, Northern Ireland, Spain, England and Wales, Belgium, Austria, Italy were all better than America. Is Singopore in the first world???



In this article, birth defects, while it is not at all noted how the babies are born, the high rate of birth defects coincides with the low incidence of proper medical care. If this can be disputed, I'd like to know how.

And High lack of quality nutrition. Just my humble opinion.

Jenny

PS No Studies on Freebirth, yet, just anecdotes that are moving people to proactive personal responsibility.

The Eve Magazine article is published for those of you in the UK, if you want to check it out. I was interviewed for this story.
Go HERE

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