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Originally Posted by tecoyah
The proper backdrop here is an HONEST DISCUSSION, untilyou can manage that.....you won't get very far.
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I asked you before, how would you feel to be prosecuted for practicing medicine without a license?
This is not hyperbole. The reality is that the ACOG people have gone nuts. Even the infamous Dr. Crippen, who was mentioned in the first entry of this thread, claims we Americans are all
living in the land of Obstetric Insanity.
When you have editors at the Lancet calling our docs the "good old boys club", and countries that everyone considers the third world having better birth stats than us, isn't it time to step back and say....Hmmmm....something might be off in the US birthing system.
And to even suggest that my strong stance is the reason that midwives are not allowed to practice. Why? Because freebirth makes all home birthers look bad???
I know the midwives are on a rampage against freebirth. At least most of them. But are we honestly a threat to them? I believe we up their numbers and credibility with families, simply because women hear about freebirth, say, don't want to do that, but perhaps I'll have a home birth with a midwife. I've had several friends (and yes, I do have friends), who have chosen home birth with midwives after being very hospital oriented. My friend Kirsten was just over the other day and told me that the main reason she gave birth to her first at home with a midwife was because she had watched me go through my fifth pregnancy before moving to new mexico. I can give you her phone number if you'd like to call and confirm that
I do indeed have a real live friend.
I also have been friends with dozens and dozens of freebirthers. People who took my childbirth class, people who I met in various chat rooms who took the time and energy to attend our 2001 conference, and
Laura Shanely is one of my best friends. I can give you her number too, if you would like to check, you know, just to see if I really have a friend.
Here is the video of one of our moms who spoke at the conference, I'm at the end of the clip speaking. So you can see in video, a friend talking to me, even (arrrrghhhh) hugging me, and yes, thanking me for giving her the opportunity to speak.
Amanda Speaks at the freebirth conference.
Since the conference Amanda and her husband John have given birth to two additional children, freebirthin style.
Now, my best friend in the world, Susan Baig, also a REAL friend, not a cyber fake friend, and not a figment of my imagination, but a real live breathing, speaking, and alive friend also spoke at the conference, she is the mother of six children, and has given birth at home alone three times.
Here is the clip to her talk at the conference
If you didn't know Dr. Crippen is documenting online the fall of the socialistic system in the UK. It is literally falling apart. He ended that blog entry with these words:
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"When you are trying to make up you mind about the wisdom and safety of home-births, read through the comments under the article “Going it alone : the “free-birthers”.
Dr Crippen would not let some of these commentators supervise a chicken laying an egg at home.
You can make up your own minds."
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How to have an honest conversation......hmmmmm....why don't we all agree that maybe, just maybe something is off in the wonderful world of medical childbirth? And instead of getting lost in studies from the 70's, 80's, and early 90's, and throwing around infant mortality rates why don't we take a hard look at what is happening, right now today at ACOG and in the birthing suites around our country.
Then, we can get to the heart of the matter of why women are increasingly choosing freebirth. Throw terrorism, the threat of disease, natural disasters, and instability in the oil supply in the middle east into the mix, and really, it just makes sense to learn how to give birth alone.
A few posts above someone asked me what I was all about, I am simply a mom who has taken a realisitc look at our world and determined that in order to have a truly healthy family, I was going to have to make some hard choices about birth. I morphed into an activist after my fourth birth because I could see the direction we were heading as a society. That was ten years ago, and each year the c-section rate jumped and jumped and jumped again. One year it jumped 4% in ONE YEAR. And with the ACOG guys talking, "hey, why not EVERYONE have a c-section"? Again, we have to ask ourselves.
What is this all about and where is this all headed?
Throw into the mix the fact that unassisted childbirth can strengthen a marriage in every single way, especially around a husband and wifes intimate life together, and it is just a no brainer to promote this thing. If I do it in an offensive way? Good. I hope to provoke and prod and get people arguing and talking and debating because what we have had a deadly lack of in America is any sort of a public debate on childbirth.
The CLASH of ideas is the sound of freedom, as
Lady Bird Johnson so eloquently said.
I LOVE the sound of the CLASH. Anyone else have some CLASHING ideas about freebirth??? Or any form of birth???
I think what we need in America is a huge scream fest about birth.
Jenny