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Originally Posted by willravel
You would have invaded iraq on evidence you yourself as president cherry picked? I would call that bad leadership, and pushing an agenda that serves personal goals at the expense of safety and liberty.
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Yes, my position of the Iraq war is well documented on TFP. I am not sure how you make the argument that the Iraq war was based on personal gain for Bush. Wait...oh yea, I remember - that theory was in that movie Fahrenheit 911 - the theory must be true since it was in the movie.
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I feel obligated to ask: when was the endgame for Vietnam?
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We failed in Vietnam. When we left hundreds of thousands died. What we should have learned from Vietnam is to never start a war we don't intend to finish with victory.
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I can think of several alternatives.
1) Never bother Iraq again and let them take care of their own shit.
2) Full arms embargo until a revolution installed a new government.
3) Supporting rebels against Saddam.
4) Make peace with Iran.
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How can we make peace with Iran and support Israel's right to exist? Should we abandon Israel? Where do we fight organized terrorist groups? Should we let the ME disintegrate into chaos? I am not suggesting your 4 points are wrong or how anyone should answer the few questions I presented. I do suggest we have a serious debate on these issues. Simply saying we are at war because of Bush's oil buddies is not helpful.
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Impartiality means no agenda. From the DOJ mission statement:
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O.k. the DOJ should have no agenda. If person A breaks a federal law they should receive the same treatment as person B. So if person "A" misstates their income on their federal income tax and person "B" (Libby) misstates when he first heard that Plame was a CIA agent, they both should get the same treatment for being untruthful in a sworn statement to the federal government? So, we should have a special prosecutor for every tax case, and a mistake should lead to the same treatment Libby received. I think the DOJ should have an agenda, an agenda set by the voters based on who we put in office.