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Originally Posted by pan6467
It's not so much what Bush may or may not have done, that bothers me. It's the fact that he put a power into motion that WILL BE ABUSED and powers that take freedoms away (just because YOU may believe that you have nothing to hide doesn't mean squat).
I just think something needs to be done so that these powers are never granted to a president or congress again.
Then again, this whole topic sort of takes the eye and attention off the true problems facing this nation, the economy, rebuilding the infrastructure, good paying jobs, getting the middle class growing again instead of shrinking.... etc etc.....
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There have been moments in our history when government leaders truly abused their power against innocent American citizens. Abuses during the civil rights struggle, internment camps during WWII, McCarthy hearings, FBI abuses under Hoover, etc. If there were any evidence of Bush doing anything like those abuses and targeting innocent Americans, I would be 100% on-board with you. I just don't see it.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Intent is only part of what's going on though. If you break the law with the best intentions, you've still broken the law. Though I've seen no evidence to suggest that Bush, Cheney, Condy, etc. have any good intentions towards the American people, it would stand as irrelevant. The wiretaps, for whatever reason they were done, were done.
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You think Bush, Cheney and Condi have bad intentions towards the American people?
Would you ever purposefully break a law? I would. At the trial my intent may not matter, but it certainly may matter in the big picture.
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I guess my question would be: what makes you think that Bush is honest or is doing his best for the good of the US?
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Because he has done what I would have done if I were President.
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So far, every move he's made has weakened us in some way. From his months of vacations pre-9/11 to Afghanistan, everything has been a fiasco, and it's all been detrimental to the US.
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The end-game has not unfolded. Your assessment is premature in my view. We may not know the answer for another 5 to 10 years. I think I understand the strategy and I understand the costs involved. I also think I understand the costs of inaction. I don't understand the alternative strategy to Bush's strategy, do you?
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The general populace of the US does not have the ability to have a vote of no confidence. We live in a constitutional republic, and must follow those rules. We need to pressure our representative, and many of them are cowards. I've written to Kucinish and thanked him for his work.
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Just a reference to a political poll posted a few weeks ago.
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The DOJ has to follow the letter of the law. If the law doesn't support the president, then the president has to appeal to the senate to enact new laws for the DOJ to follow. If the laws already exist and the DOJ refuses to follow them, he can easily dismiss them for simply not following the law.
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DOJ has limited resources. They can not go after all federal crimes with equal vigor. The President sets the agenda,like it or not.