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Old 07-08-2007, 06:57 PM   #203 (permalink)
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I'm a little disappointed that you have decided to post a trolling response to the discussions put forth by some of our most prominent members. Again, if you can't sway people by your logic, you decide to push the emotional buttons in order to get more responses. I call, "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit."

If this was to be moderated, the thread should be locked at that point. At this point, you're practically trolling. If you wish to continue this discussion, then please, feel free to engage those that are trying to discuss this with you. I stated this in another thread about Atheism:

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Someone's opinion is whatever shape it takes. Ultimate Warrior's opinion is how it is, nothing more and nothing less. Because it doesn't fit into what you decided an opinon should be is the crux of your own process of "spurring discussion."
That said, I will again, engage you with discussion, it is up to you to discuss.

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WHO GETS TO DECIDE WHERE THE BABES ARE BORN???
First, allow me to interject something that I try not to interject into any argument, but the ultimate answer to this is, God or Luck whichever you choose, since not a single one of us gets to choose, where we are born. We don't get to choose our mother or father, the country, or time period.

For the sake of this discussion the answer is: Responsible parents.

Please note the qualifier, responsible.

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re·spon·si·ble (ri-spon's?-b?l) Pronunciation Key
adj.
  • Liable to be required to give account, as of one's actions or of the discharge of a duty or trust.
  • Involving personal accountability or ability to act without guidance or superior authority: a responsible position
  • within the firm.
  • Being a source or cause.
  • Able to make moral or rational decisions on one's own and therefore answerable for one's behavior.
  • Able to be trusted or depended upon; reliable.
  • Based on or characterized by good judgment or sound thinking: responsible journalism.
  • Having the means to pay debts or fulfill obligations.
  • Required to render account; answerable: The cabinet is responsible to the parliament.
But as within all societies, people of higher stature government, religious level, social statuses, bend and twist this into various pretzels.

Our government in the US at times will force someone to be "responsible."

If you are an incompent parent, the children will be taken by CPS/DHS.

Your comparison to how births show on TV and movies is laughable. That is not real life nor is it even close to it. If you think for a minute that it is so, then you should take a look at some reality TV, which again is more hyperbole of life than it is "reality."

If a parent whiches to birth their child in the water with sharks and states that their religion deems sharks are gods and they decide the fate of the child to live or die at that point. I'm sure that some government officials or some society persons will be concerned and wish to intervene on behalf of the child.

So in the face of high infant mortality rates from wherein medical aid and/or lack of midwife present, people will take issue with that.

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The most educated women are giving birth at home alone.
Really? Does a couple years in musical theater studies count as being educated? What is your definition of "educated" mean? Or do you discount them because they are within the "ivory tower" and not within your reach as you've posted within your blog? And how do you qualify educated? Is it because you have the most books? Been tested and reviewed by peers?

Please define EDUCATED as it means to you. Because in my world and most others it means:

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ed·u·cat·ed /'?d???ke?t?d/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ej-oo-key-tid] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. having undergone education: educated people.
2. characterized by or displaying qualities of culture and learning.
3. based on some information or experience: an educated estimate of next year's sales.
I'm trying very carefully to frame this not as a personal attack, and I ask that other moderators that have been in this thread give guidance as well.

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Now, why don't we stop talking about me and my lack of credentials and get to the heart of this debate.....
How can we ignore your lack of education in this decision making process? You tout that it is the MOST educated women, yet, you yourself don't have the most education within this thread. Stating that you are a mother of 5 does not give you any real education edge. I live in a Jewish neighborhood and if that was the qualification of education, then there are many women here with more "education" than you. But that's the card you will pull out of your ass right? "I've had more babies, so I'm more educated in the birthing process."

Again Bullshit.

You've created a small little patch of logic for you to defend, where in nothing is within the scope of discussion. Until you are willing to step foot outside of that small space, there is no discussion.

To bring this post to full circle, if you cannot or will not engage in discussing what is brough forth, then you are noting more than a troll. We don't like trolls and we don't let them live among us. The challenge is back to you. I've asked you several questions to return your initial one.
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