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Originally Posted by aceventura3
It is simple. How have you been harmed? If bad things have happened to you, make the assumption that it was because of Bush's illegal domestic spying. Then show some proximate cause between the bad things and the federal government. Then talk to the ACLU, and you are off to the races. Please don't forget me, a 5% consulting fee would be nice.  |
I'm afraid the only thing simple here is naiveté. How have I been harmed? Maybe I should put you in the shoes of those being monitored. I'[m assuming you live in a house of some kind, and that you didn't build that house yourself. Let's say that before you moved into or were born into your home, cameras were installed everywhere: kitchen, living-room, bathroom, shower, bedroom. Let's say someone has access to everything on that camera, and decides to spy on you and your family, without knowledge and permission. Let's say that you find online sex tapes and shower tapes of you and your SO. That's an invasion of privacy, and it's wrong. Now imagine that private conversations that you have, not intended to be heard by anyone but you and the other person on the phone, are being listened to by the government who is just looking for any small sign of something. Let's say that, over the phone, I say "the president should be tried for murder and sentenced to life in prison" or "I wish Bush could live a day in Bagdad". Nothing illegal about that, but you get put on a potential terrorist list because of your assertions.
I don't belong on any lists, and I won't be on any lists. I love my country, and the idea that I can be considered a potential enemy because I think the president is a dolt is outrageous and my phone being tapped is a personal injury. If I'm being monitored, I'm being harmed.
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
If there is an illegal domestic spy program targeting purely innocent US citizens, I doubt Bush is sitting in the oval office listening to the phone calls of 300 million people every day.
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He authorized it. He's responsible.
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
Or, perhaps you can accept, without divulging the names of the terrorist we are monitoring, that the intent of the program was in-fact to track the communications into and out of this country of known terrorist. A much shorter list than the entire population of the United States, I might add.  |
Like the intent of Iraq was liberation? How about they serve you a big steaming pile of bullshit and call it apple pie? They earn my trust. They don't just get it for free like you.