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Tilted Cat Head
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Location: Manhattan, NY
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Originally Posted by Jenny Hatch
As noted ad nauseum, sharing studies on birth that were conducted during the early 90's do not take into account the very real use of Cytotec for labor induction right now TODAY, the HMO depersonalization of continuity of care, nor the fact that more drugs than ever before are being eaten by pregnant women-both prescribed and over the counter meds. They also do not factor in lifestyle and quality of life issues, economics, or the very real issues surrounding the black hole of obstetrics, post partum care. All of the money, statistics, focus is on the birth event itself...and very little follow up research is being conducted on the long term effects of drugs and surgery American Birth on American Families, including drug addictions, postpartum depression, inability to breastfeed, and bonding disorders.
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First you say Industrial age information doesn't count:
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Originally Posted by Jenny Hatch
Infant mortality rates that are thrown around to disprove homebirth are usually from the height of the Industrial Revolution and compiled at some teaching hospital in a big city, where women were notoriously undernourished and overworked. The fact that they also gave birth in a hospital during that time of no hand washing and no infrastructure in hospital for proper hygiene, also makes the stats suspect. London during the industrial revolution was a very dangerous place to birth a child, yet those stats are often used to compare and contrast the "progress" of medicine the past hundred years.
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then you now discount more current statisticis:
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Originally Posted by Jenny Hatch
As noted ad nauseum, sharing studies on birth that were conducted during the early 90's do not take into account the very real use of Cytotec for labor induction right now TODAY, the HMO depersonalization of continuity of care, nor the fact that more drugs than ever before are being eaten by pregnant women-both prescribed and over the counter meds. They also do not factor in lifestyle and quality of life issues, economics, or the very real issues surrounding the black hole of obstetrics, post partum care. All of the money, statistics, focus is on the birth event itself...and very little follow up research is being conducted on the long term effects of drugs and surgery American Birth on American Families, including drug addictions, postpartum depression, inability to breastfeed, and bonding disorders.
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It is OBVIOUS that you don't understand how and what infant mortality means since it doesn't NEED to include or disclude it. The statistics themselves should be agnostic to those conditions. The data collected is just data. It is up to the person reviewing the data to look at the information provided and then ask the crucial and critical questions that then explain the data. If you don't want to look at the 90's look at the 70's and 80's and compare those to the 50's and 60's. Again, if your cytotec fears had any bearing to the data, there would be some data trend going upwards. But anyone with eyeballs can see in the data I have posted, that the trends go downward.
Looking at the scope of the infant mortality rates (IMR) it is apparent that there is some relationship between prenatal medical care and continued care since they track from birth to age 5.
You narrow the scope, widen the scope, adjust the findings to determine and rationalize your position. Again, it is your choice. It is ulitmately your choice, but it is also your responsibility.
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Originally Posted by Jenny Hatch
Did anyone on this board have a doctor ask them what they were eating while pregnant? I never did, not once during the three pregnancies that I went to them for prenatals. Yet it is in fact the key to a healthy pregnancy, great birth, and abundant breastmilk supply.
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Again, that is YOUR responsibility. Because your doctor didn't, and YOU didn't bother to inquire, then it is the doctor's fault, that is patently absurd.
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Originally Posted by Jenny Hatch
Does anyone here honestly believe that a mother who starts asking her doctor how many drugs she can have during labor soon after her first contraction has her childs best interest at heart?
Doesn't that qualify her as a selfish person, only concerned about her "experience"?
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Yes it does. Just like those who want to have a scheduled c-section since they want to control the date and time of the birthing. It speaks to some degree to the character of the individual.
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