View Single Post
Old 07-04-2007, 03:49 PM   #167 (permalink)
Cynthetiq
Tilted Cat Head
 
Cynthetiq's Avatar
 
Administrator
Location: Manhattan, NY
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sticky
http://neonataldoc.blogspot.com/2006/04/home.html
Quote:
I think that most people who have a home delivery do it because they want a better "childbirth experience". I ask such people, why are you having a baby? What is the purpose of this pregnancy? If it's to have a good experience, skip the pregnancy and go out for dinner and a movie instead. But if it's to have a helathy child, go to a hospital and take advantage of the modern world. It wasn't that long ago that many women and babies died in childbirth. A lot can go wrong. Ten per cent of babies need some type of resuscitation at birth. A good childbirth experience won't make up for the loss of a child. (By the way, this is not a rant against midwives. I have nothing against them, as long as they are certified and deliver babies in the hospital.)
My thoughts exactly.
This is all about selfishness.

Note: By the way I feel the same way about elective c-sections
.

I would have to agree. I then read, "I referred to orgasmic childbirth, here are a couple of testimonials. Compiled by Laura Shanley." It cemented it for me that this discussion isn't about childbirth or protecting the child. It is about making the mother feel good.

It is exactly why this discussion hasn't been a discussion. It has been strictly presented fairly and simply, you don't address any of the points in front of you, but add emotionally charged words and then move the target.

I am glad that you have stopped here. I am very glad. This is a heavily trafficked site, and as you found us, other people looking for more information on freebirth. I hope that people find this and can easily make the decision as to what is good for themselves based on evidence presented in this discussion. I hope that they find this information least biased as far as your normal experiences which you claim you were dogpiled and flamed. I don't wish that upon anyone for their beliefs.

Why you should go to the hospital for childbirth? Because the evidence and statistics show that it is in the child's best interest.

So far your posts all show that your interests seem to be more rooted in the mother's interests. I have gone back and reread all your posts, to make sure that I'm not being biased in my opinion or missing some key element in your presentation of your side of the story.

Quote:
I referred to orgasmic childbirth, here are a couple of testimonials. Compiled by Laura Shanley
Quote:
Many couples who give birth this way describe the experience as supremely intimate and without going into too much detail I have talked to several women who have claimed that giving birth this way "recharged" them sexually.
Quote:
I do want to testify however, that the Joy is much deeper, palpable, and very different from the hospital experiences I had.
Quote:
Joy, pure unadulterated JOY when I give birth.
All these emotionally charged statements have nothing to do with the benefit of the child, but have everything to do with the benefit for the mother. I'm with Sticky, it sounds like you are more about you and your well being than about the well being of the child.
__________________
I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not.
Cynthetiq is offline  
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360