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Originally Posted by Jenny Hatch
I am not a troll or a whore in any way shape or form.
I am someone whose lifestyle is being threatened by doctors who are calling for me to be prosecuted for manslaughter should something happen during my Freebirth.
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ONE doctor. Drama is not discussion.
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Originally Posted by Jenny Hatch
I am not goading anyone about anything. Lots of poo has been flung in my direction the past two days.
I am asking for evidence that medical birth is better. Not personal anecdotes.
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But why are yours ok? Fact is, personal anecdotes ARE evidence, good or bad. No one has flung anything but queries. Each gets a defensive comeback and obscure 'studies' done by individuals.
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Originally Posted by Jenny Hatch
Infant mortality rates that are thrown around to disprove homebirth are usually from the height of the Industrial Revolution and compiled at some teaching hospital in a big city, where women were notoriously undernourished and overworked. The fact that they also gave birth in a hospital during that time of no hand washing and no infrastructure in hospital for proper hygiene, also makes the stats suspect. London during the industrial revolution was a very dangerous place to birth a child, yet those stats are often used to compare and contrast the "progress" of medicine the past hundred years.
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EVERY place 100 to 200 years ago was a dangerous place to give birth!!!
Doctors now wash their hands....among other things.
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Originally Posted by Jenny Hatch
A powerful personal study is to go look at your own geneological records. Go back two hundred years and just look at your own family. Baby after baby after baby being born. Mothers made it through birth number one and on to birth number sixteen, over and over again. No doctors in sight.
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Well, if you must know, I don't have any, personally, as they were all lost during the Holocaust. However, I do know my great-grandmother had 8 kids, including two sets of twins, but only 3 girls made it past the age of 5, one being my grandmother.
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Originally Posted by Jenny Hatch
Doctors have been in control of birth in America, especially on the east coast for TWO HUNDRED years, not a hundred, as many people think. To get true stats for birth go look at the geneological records from the families who lived in America during the revolution. During that time it felt like every patriot came from an unusually large family, or went on to father one. What did they know with the lack of doctors, modern hospitals, and no anti-biotics or chemical vaccines in sight that allowed them to give birth to those huge babies. I've read the midwives diaries...those women were consistently birthing eleven pound babies, the midwives tended to be amazed at a thirteen or fourteen pounder, but eleven pounds seemed to be the norm.
When mothers are well nourished, rested, and armed with some good birthing information, they are fully capable of giving birth all by themselves. Most of them, most of the time.
I also asked about economics, emotional, spiritual, and hormonal proof that hospital birth is better.
All you have to do to know that women are not being served in birth is look at the post partum depression rates. Traumatic birth is a huge trigger for depression and anxiety.
Jenny
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Post partum depression rates are not increasing, just the reporting and treatment of them. And why? Uh....improved medical practices. The same improvements that found that, unlike the medical belief of the Civil War that all that puss in wounds was actually beneficial, it meant disaster loomed....
Again, you have not proven anything you'd noted. Anecdotal evidence is evidence until proven otherwise; no less than 3 here have stated unequivocably that it was medical intervention that saved their newborns' lives. I'd go so far as to say that medical interference(as you would believe it to be) did NOT harm anyone's life in your own case, just left whatever sour taste you got from it and, in fact, allowed you to spend MORE time with the one child you had by C-section. Just saying....