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Originally Posted by ratbastid
You keep doing that. Do you have amnesia? Or are you just trying to revise history to score points?
The Democratic party had no control at the time. Most democrats (I know, for you the exceptions are all that matter, but stay with me here) were screaming bloody murder about the invasion, its lack of planning, its lack of justification, and everything else about it. Who was in control of Congress at the time was... REPUBLICANS. No amount of screaming on the part of Democrats could cause ANYTHING, because they were the minority at the time, and the White House had congressional Republicans utterly pussy-whipped into lockstep agreement with their policies. Remember?
To now turn around and blame Democrats because the Congress of five years ago was utterly dominated by the President is simply revisionist and lame.
No. In fact, no fair or honest reading of that post could have you arrive at that conclusion.
There are positive things that have happened since our invasion. They're vastly outnumbered by the negative things that have happened. And there being positive things doesn't imply that there was ever a plan--this ratio of positive-to-negative is completely consistent with an occupation that is made up as it goes along.
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I don't blame the Democrats because I think there was a plan. And you seem to dance around the point given your belief there was no plan.
Control or no control as a member of Congress they should voted based on what is best for the country. Everyone who believed there was no plan should have voted no to funding.
I agree thinks are screwed up in Iraq today and could not be much worse. But I did see positive results initially. My current belief is that we should bring our troops home because of our lack of will to finish the job. I think we need to re-group and prepare to fight there another day. If we fail to finish the job, in my opinion there is no doubt we will be back.