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Originally Posted by aceventura3
Democratic party leadership should be embarassed for voting to fund the war if there was no plan and that they did not ask to see it before allowing Bush to spend billions of dollars in Iraq. You call that point a knee-jerk reaction? If in fact there was no plan, wy didn't Congress play their role of checks and balances as outlined in the Constitution. To me there is nothing more serious, becuase it suggests that we could have a nut in the White House and Congress would not do anything. And you suggest that you don't see the importance of that?
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You keep doing that. Do you have amnesia? Or are you just trying to revise history to score points?
The Democratic party had no control at the time. Most democrats (I know, for you the exceptions are all that matter, but stay with me here) were screaming bloody murder about the invasion, its lack of planning, its lack of justification, and everything else about it. Who was in control of Congress at the time was... REPUBLICANS. No amount of screaming on the part of Democrats could cause ANYTHING, because they were the minority at the time, and the White House had congressional Republicans utterly pussy-whipped into lockstep agreement with their policies. Remember?
To now turn around and blame Democrats because the Congress of five years ago was utterly dominated by the President is simply revisionist and lame.
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
Let's be reasonable. You think positive results in Iraq are like a needle in a haystack? Basically saying nothing positive has happened in Iraq since our occupation. Am I understanding your position clearly?
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No. In fact, no fair or honest reading of that post could have you arrive at that conclusion.
There are positive things that have happened since our invasion. They're vastly outnumbered by the negative things that have happened. And there being positive things doesn't imply that there was ever a plan--this ratio of positive-to-negative is completely consistent with an occupation that is made up as it goes along.