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Old 06-29-2007, 03:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The New Soviet Union

I am from Romania, we joined the EU this year, and I regret it.
We will receive orders and laws from the EU and we will obey them, because "nothing wrong can come from EU"
In our Constitution it says : "independent and self governed country", from where then do all these rules that nobody asked me if I like them or not, appear ? My influence on these laws from outside is almost nothing.
Where is the democracy , and the people that govern themselves ?

Good things from the EU - the freedom to travel and work everywhere in Europe. If indeed the people of Europe are friends and the European Union is their creation and their will, then the EU should stop at that, nothing more.

The EU constitution did not pass the vote of the people, it did not pass in the Netherlands and it did not pass in France.
But our "beloved leaders" found a way around our will : they named it a "treaty" not a "constitution"

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/08ad3c74-1cb...b5df10621.html



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It will no longer be a “constitution” and there will be some cosmetic changes to make it sound less threatening, but much of the original text remains. This is slightly embarrassing for countries like Britain, France and the Netherlands who are backtracking on referendum promises.

If all goes smoothly - and it is a big if - the new treaty could be in force in 2009 after ratification mainly in national parliaments.

EXPECTED TO STAY IN

● Full-time EU president - replacing six-monthly rotating presidency

● Single EU foreign minister (with a different name)

● European diplomatic service

● Slimmed-down 18-member European Commission (may be negotiable later)

● More qualified majority voting, fewer vetoes

● New voting system to make it easier to reach decisions

● Legal personality for the EU, allowing it to sign international treaties

EXPECTED TO BE AXED

● The “constitution” title: new text will simply amend old treaties

● Symbols of statehood: flag, anthem, motto (all will remain in practice)

● Charter of fundamental rights (but only hidden in an annex)

● Reference to primacy of EU law (it’s a fact anyway)
A former russian who opposed communism compares the European Union with the Soviet Union :

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...ctatorship.htm

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It is no accident that the European Parliament, for example, reminds me of the Supreme Soviet. It looks like the Supreme Soviet because it was designed like it. Similary, when you look at the European Commission it looks like the Politburo. I mean it does so exactly, except for the fact that the Commission now has 25 members and the Politburo usually had 13 or 15 members. Apart from that they are exactly the same, unaccountable to anyone, not directly elected by anyone at all. When you look into all this bizarre activity of the European Union with its 80,000 pages of regulations it looks like Gosplan. We used to have an organisation which was planning everything in the economy, to the last nut and bolt, five years in advance. Exactly the same thing is happening in the EU. When you look at the type of EU corruption, it is exactly the Soviet type of corruption, going from top to bottom rather than going from bottom to top.

PB: But all these countries that joined the European Union did so voluntarily.

VB: No, they did not. Look at Denmark which voted against the Maastricht treaty twice. Look at Ireland [which voted against the Nice treaty]. Look at many other countries, they are under enormous pressure. It is almost blackmail. Switzerland was forced to vote five times in a referendum. All five times they have rejected it, but who knows what will happen the sixth time, the seventh time. It is always the same thing. It is a trick for idiots. The people have to vote in referendums until the people vote the way that is wanted. Then they have to stop voting. Why stop? Let us continue voting. The European Union is what Americans would call a shotgun marriage.

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