Jenny Hatch

This is true in most areas of life and I am a very much a live and let live person, but when you have a medical doctor blogging that we should be prosecuted for manslaughter should something go wrong, well then I feel the need to go defend my lifestyle choices a little bit.

As I said Above:

"Dr. Crippen is calling for us moms who have a babe die during a freebirth to be charged with manslaughter. (Or at least be prosecuted by brain damaged children later on)

I think he is really on to something in his call for criminal charges for dangerous parental decisions around birth.

We freebirthers will gladly accept the responsibility for our birth outcomes WHEN and IF mothers who are choosing elective C-sections are held under the same law.

Nobody is above the law...Right?

So, as long as moms who choose a medical intervention without true medical cause are being prosecuted and locked up for their dangerous and deadly choice for baby, we will gladly bow down to the law and allow ourselves to also be prosecuted and charged for a supposedly dangerous birth choice.

See, we have nature and the lack of chemicals on our side, and I can promise you that the mothers from the medical side will be prosecuted ten to one more often than we mothers who are giving birth alone. Toxic, "blue" chemical laden babies have a much harder time recovering from birth than our beautiful natural babes who are born at home with proper hormonal interactions and lack of deadly drugs like Cytotec raging through their livers and brains.

It seems to me that if poor parental choices are being thrown into the mix of who gets prosecuted and who does not, those babies who are brain damaged from too many drugs at birth, those babies who never reach full genetic brain potential cause Momma didn't want to breastfeed, and those children who are permanently maimed and disabled by never being fed whole organic foods, should also be enabled to have cause to sue parents for damages.


This was the point of my post, and I just shared Dr. Odents quote to back up my claim that bonding and getting off to a good start with nurturing at the breast starts during pregnancy.

UC Birth was the way for me to grasp this reality as a mother after four very frustrating/distracting bonding moments with my older children in the immediate hours after birth.


And I was simply attempting to explain WHY freebirth was so important to me as a mother. It enabled me to bond with my child in a way that I had NEVER been able to do in the hospital. And, just so you know, I live in Boulder County Colorado and gave birth at a birthing center with the best Family Practitioner (most supportive of natural birth in the state), my husband and I were Bradley Method Childbirth teachers for eight years, and even with all of this prep and birth plan, and all of the good communications, I still had to fight to give birth naturally with no interventions. Ironically it was my C-section baby that I had with me the most in the days after birth.

Hope that helps you to understand.

Jenny Hatch


Fanatic? Extremism? To my way of thinking a US C-section rate or 30% is the extreme. To me the fanatics are the blog doctors calling for parents to be prosecuted for manslaughter.

The current fight that is taking place in America over birth is just sickening.

You know how I see the world right now?

On one side we have the doctors backed up by the pharma companies and the republican party.

On the other side we have the trial lawyers backed up by democratic party.

(I know those are gross stereotypes but hear me out)

And in the middle???

We have a nice young pregnant woman. And she is looking at all of the yelling, lititgation, money being shoved hand over fist to one side or the other.

And she is looking up at them and quietly says: "I just wanted to have a baby"

What we freebirthers are saying is, "Come over here where life is green and healthy, and you can birth in freedom and peace, and then enjoy your child without being bothered by all of that noise."


Yet the very fact that this is our message leaves us prone to the very vitriol that has been displayed on this thread. Nuts, crazy, delusional, DANGEROUS PARENTS"

I've been promoting this lifestyle for a long, long time and I can promise you, I have been called every name in the book. Being for husband/wife home birth has brought the most ugly, disgusting, evil energy you could ever imagine into my life.

And it is not my intent to make any mother feel bad about her life choices.

Why do I keep talking about it? Promoting it?

Because if we don't we are going to get to a place in our society when all that is available for women is in fact a scheduled section. And I want more for my daughters and grandaughters than a knife in the belly when they give birth.

Jenny Hatch


I'd like to see some of that information please. Links? Quotes?

As for my DATA - go here and do a little surfing. The pre and peri natal psychologists are doing the research that the medical people SHOULD have been doing all along.

Go Here

Jenny Hatch

Quick Facts on Violence

1. Violence is a mental health problem, perhaps the most serious mental health problem facing society today.

2. Violence is learned, typically in the family circle. Domestic violence is the breeding place for social violence.

3. Many experts believe that the "bonding/attachment" of babies and parents in the period before and around birth will have life-long importance. Fifteen percent of U.S. children may enter life without such an attachment, feel no intimate, safe, and loving connection with anyone, posing high risk of violent behavior.

4. Psychological tests of 14 juviniles on death row in U.S. prisons revealed major neurological impairments, psychotic disorders, and low I.Q. scores--profound handicaps which often reflect lack of nourishment and love during prenatal development.

5. For 60% of boys born in the United States today, hospital birth still ends with a violent act: circumcision. A urologist estimates that 90% of the men who are walking the streets today had this painful initiation shortly after birth. For them, sex and violence are linked.

6. About 30,000 children currently await adoption. Adoption, when it is the last in a series of traumatic experiences perhaps includidng fetal alcohol poisoning, malnutrition, rejection, and birth complications, can lead to antisocial behavior, especially in boys.

7. Certain birth complications, when accompanied by severe parental rejection/separation in the first year, strongly influence criminal behavior in later life.

8. Infant monkeys, reared in isolation from mothers, develop structural, neurochemical, and neuroelectrical abnormalities which mediate depression, hyperactivity, self-mutilation, and pathologic violence. Human infants, similarly deprived for brief periods following birth, also show these behaviors.

9. For the first time in history, violent sexual assaults are being committed by boys younger than ten years of age. More than 128 were convicted of rape in 1993.

10. Every 2.5 minutes, someone is raped in America. Females are the main (not the only) target--regardless of age, race, education, or physical description. In most cases the attacker will be a relative, friend, neighbor, or other trusted acquaintance. Nearly 90% of the assaults will involve a weapon and threat of violence and death.