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Originally Posted by willravel
What's the distinction between cherry picking and a lie? A lie is a statement intended to deceive. Intentionally presenting selective evidence to sway the overall message of said evidence is a lie. If I got in a car accedent because I was driving drunk and ran a stop sign, but the other guy didn't come to a complete stop at a stop sign, and I only told the police about the other guy not stopping at the stop sign and omitted the fact I was intoxicated and ran a stop sign, I would be lying.
It was deliberately misleading, which is a lie.
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Eh, maybe none of these distinctions really matter individually, but for me they add up to the point where a statement like "they lied about WMD" is just plain false.
(Unless, as I said, I missed the conclusive thread.)
They didn't lie about the WMD. They didn't even lie about the evidence for WMD - evidence was there. They were deceptive about the aggregate of the evidence, however, and obviously that matters.
But as much as it matters, as important as it is, it just doesn't add up to "they lied about WMD" and it sure as hell doesn't add up to 'idiotic' lies or "many of us always knew".
Maybe those distinctions don't really matter. But I'm still annoyed when they're apparently ignored.
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It's amazingly noble to admit that you regret your vote. I hope you understand how much I respect that ability to learn from one's mistakes or misjudgments. We all screw up, especially me, but it's when you learn from those mistakes that you improve yourself. I applaud that.
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What can I say? Bush failed to meet my already low expectations. I was looking for "not Kerry" and got "maybe Kerry's not the worst option after all".
Third party next time, unless Paul pulls a miracle or Romney shapes up. The miracle's probably more likely. At least I can use a pointless Libertarian vote like it was indie cred. "Yeah, and I was listening to the new Andrew Bird as I pushed Badnarik a little bit closer to the 2% threshold. How cool am I?"