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Old 06-27-2007, 12:42 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by host
out of 143 of these people it identified, MSNBC found that less than 20 donated to republicans
This is so weird for the follwing reasons:

How does an item like this get posted by the left (liberal, democrat...)?

How does this get turned into something that is wrong with the republican party?
To me, on its own, this says MORE about the press than it does about the republican party. In order for it to say something about the Republican party (e.g. that support for republicans is down) you would need to have a previous study that shows the numbers were higher for Republican support.
This, on its own, only says that people employed by news media support the Democratic party more than the Republican party.

How does a news item like this get completely turned around into something against the Republican party?
I am sure that there are many other news stories, studies, whatever that are interesting and can be used to start a thread against the Republican party or the current leaders of that party.
But to take this story and twist it away from something other than showing that the media supports teh Democratic party more than the Republican party?
Is this something new or has it always been that way?
flstf and Shakran say that this is the way it is with the media owners being Republicans and the employees democrats.
Isn't this the claim of the right?

This is just backwards.
Is it only this board?
Is it only me that sees this as weird?

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Originally Posted by host
The "tell" is that folks who believe that the "media is liberal" have only one other place to go.....to the space where the "information" is catapulted by Bush and his "operative", James R. Wilkinson....and that is a pathetic place where you'll end up with a POV similar to the one regularly exhibited in the posts of Reconmike.....
See what I mean. Doesn't this news item just support what those folks are saying. This story is syaing that the media supports the democrats.


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Originally Posted by willravel
Recon, you're alone just like IL, Ace and many other conservatives because your representative leaders are fools or evil or both.
There is more to the conservatives than the current leaders.
Should conservatives no longer support the Republican party? Should they get up and quit or should they try to make their voices heard.

Willravel, I know you did not say Republican supporters and that you specifically the entioned Bush administration but you guys should really take a closer look at some of the things that were said in this thread:

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Originally Posted by host
Can any journalist or editor donate to republicans and still be considered a news professional, this late in the current cycle of republican scandals, lawbreaking, and obstruction of justice
The Rebuplican party is just as ligitimate (or illigitimate - however you want to look at it) as the Democratic party. Host, do you mean Bush administration.
The real question here is can any journalist or editor donate to any party and still be considered a news professional.

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Originally Posted by host
To embrace the republican POV, would have put any journalist on the wrong side of all of the major current events since...
A journalist should not be on any side of major current events.

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Originally Posted by host
I believe that it is ethical to do so...albeit while displaying poor judgment and flying in the face of the facts that would deem such donations as "fringe" behavior
Republicans should support the Republican party becuase:
- They believe in the ideals of the party
- They feel closer to the political ideology of this party more than the other parties
- They are happy with the current administration (some are)
- They are unhappy with the current administration and they want to support better candidates

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Originally Posted by host
Is anyone else surprised that there are still so many of these folks donating to republicans?
Nice shot. (republican bashing? OK, maybe this is just a joke)
Realisticaly...we are talking about a poll that asked which party a person makes donations to. It did not ask whether you support Bush or not.
Tell me becuase I don't know...what is the general split amongst the population of the U.S. of people who consider themselves Democrats vs. people who consider themselves Republicans.
- Is it 14% Republican, 86% Democrat as the poll suggests or is the media a inacurate representation of the total U.S. population?
- Is it 30% Republican, 70% Democrat?
- Is it closer to 50/50?
(other parties left out for simplicity)

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Originally Posted by host
I think that the donations are skewed so far towards democrats because republicans have migrated to an alternate, parallel universe to obtain the news and talking points that shape their points of views, and these "sources" are not credible and noticeably warp the POV of those who take in the information that they disseminate
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Originally Posted by willravel
In a world without propaganda, only the Bond villan-esque would donate to the Republicans, but in reality they can trick many, many people into jumping on board, usually using their fear or stubbornness. 1 in 5 dentists is going to be an idiot. Likewise, 20/143 journalists are going to be stubborn or ignorant asses.
More Republican bashing?
Come on guys. You would not talk this way about other groups.
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