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elaphe · 06-23-2007, 02:31 PM

This idea has been floating around in my head for a while. What if it wasn't Jesus that was crucified? It was known that a great teacher was "in town", but in a time where there was no photographs - just word of mouth - how many would really know who Jesus was by just looking at him? When the authorities moved in on Jesus to arrest him, it took Judas to point Jesus out and identify him with a kiss.
Now comes the "what if".
Jesus was crucified and died on the cross. But the only people who knew what Jesus looked like would have been those closest to him. If Mel was right in his movie, the Romans would have kicked the shit out of Jesus before he was strung up. Witness to the crucification would have seen a broken man up on that cross identified as the "King of the Jews". Who would have been in a position to say otherwise? Here's my "what if".
What if Judas was not a traitor? What if one of the followers sacrificed himself so that Jesus could live? There was a sacrificial lamb; one that paid for our sins. What if the sin he died for was the protection of the identity of Jesus? And the sightings made after the crucification was that of Jesus himself? He would have had to leave the middle east for fear of continued persecution from the Romans - hence the Assention stories. As for rising from the dead... the body would have been removed and hidden so that rivals could not have desecrated it.
For the rest the story, what a powerful political statement it would have made if someone could have thwarted the will of mighty Rome and cheated death? The Jews were being ground to the ground. Revolution was in the air. What better way to instill a fighting spirit in the masses than to dispel the fear of death?

Just my two cents worth - probably gonna burn in hell for this!

06-23-2007, 02:31 PM	#12 (permalink)
elaphe Tilted Location: British Columbia, Canada	This idea has been floating around in my head for a while. What if it wasn't Jesus that was crucified? It was known that a great teacher was "in town", but in a time where there was no photographs - just word of mouth - how many would really know who Jesus was by just looking at him? When the authorities moved in on Jesus to arrest him, it took Judas to point Jesus out and identify him with a kiss. Now comes the "what if". Jesus was crucified and died on the cross. But the only people who knew what Jesus looked like would have been those closest to him. If Mel was right in his movie, the Romans would have kicked the shit out of Jesus before he was strung up. Witness to the crucification would have seen a broken man up on that cross identified as the "King of the Jews". Who would have been in a position to say otherwise? Here's my "what if". What if Judas was not a traitor? What if one of the followers sacrificed himself so that Jesus could live? There was a sacrificial lamb; one that paid for our sins. What if the sin he died for was the protection of the identity of Jesus? And the sightings made after the crucification was that of Jesus himself? He would have had to leave the middle east for fear of continued persecution from the Romans - hence the Assention stories. As for rising from the dead... the body would have been removed and hidden so that rivals could not have desecrated it. For the rest the story, what a powerful political statement it would have made if someone could have thwarted the will of mighty Rome and cheated death? The Jews were being ground to the ground. Revolution was in the air. What better way to instill a fighting spirit in the masses than to dispel the fear of death? Just my two cents worth - probably gonna burn in hell for this! __________________ "Forty-two," said Deep Thought, with infinite majesty and calm.