When I read the excuses posted for why it is not advisable...or even a necessity that these two thugs be immediately impeached and tried in the senate for "high crimes against the constitution", framed especially in the context of what is described in this article....a coup by the VP, approved by the de-cider....I have to wonder if these thugs, as well as most of you....have taken leave of your senses.
Have you not lived through the last six years and eight months in this country? They are telling us that they are not accountable, and they have been blatantly acting as if they are not.....and you react with the comments that you've posted? They've tested you....and you confirm their assumptions.....you're giving away....to them....what is not your prerogative to give to them.
You even assume that they'll both give up their offices in early 2009....why?
Even if they do allow elections in Nov., 2008, and routinely leave office the following january, the appointments to the SCOTUS of Roberts and Alito, and possibly one or two more like, them will stand....and the 150 Regents U grads that they've hired are just the tip of the iceberg of what they will leave behind. What of the federalist society???? 34,000 lawyers with no respect for the law....and they same with the permanent hires in the DOJ that these criminals have effected.
Read this, let it sink in.....come back and post something that shows you appreciate the gravity of what they have been doing to us....and then decide to hold them accountable....now.....while they boldly attempt to take what "the people" reserved from themselves in their constitution, for more than 200 years.....away from us....
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...201809_pf.html
White House Defends Cheney's Refusal of Oversight
By Peter Baker
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, June 23, 2007; A02
The White House defended Vice President Cheney yesterday in a dispute over his office's refusal to comply with an executive order regulating the handling of classified information as Democrats and other critics assailed him for disregarding rules that others follow.
White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said Cheney is not obligated to submit to oversight by an office that safeguards classified information, as other members and parts of the executive branch are. Cheney's office has contended that it does not have to comply because the vice president serves as president of the Senate, <b>which means that his office is not an "entity within the executive branch."</b>
"This is a little bit of a nonissue," Perino said at a briefing dominated by the issue. Cheney is not subject to the executive order, she said, <h3>"because the president gets to decide</h3> whether or not he should be treated separately, and he's decided that he should."
Democratic critics said Cheney is distorting the plain meaning of the executive order. "Vice President Cheney is expanding the administration's policy on torture to include tortured logic," said Senate Majority Whip Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.). "In the end, neither Mr. Cheney or his staff is above the law or the Constitution."
The dispute stems from an executive order, issued in 1995 by President Bill Clinton and revised by President Bush in 2003, establishing a uniform, government-wide system for protecting classified information. Cheney's office, like its predecessor, filed reports about its handling of classified information to the National Archives and Records Administration oversight office in 2001 and 2002 but has refused to do so since. His office also blocked an on-site inspection to examine its handling of classified data.
The Archives' Information Security Oversight Office sent two letters to Cheney requesting compliance but never received a response. The office then asked Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales in January to decide whether Cheney was violating the executive order, but he has not responded either. Instead, according to Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Calif.),<b> Cheney's staff tried to get the oversight office abolished this year.</b>
Perino said the president does not think the office should be eliminated, "and I don't think that anyone has suggested that." Cheney spokeswoman Lea Anne McBride would not comment on the record yesterday about whether the office targeted the oversight office or why Cheney's staff complied with the order in 2001 and 2002 and then decided not to in 2003.
The argument that Cheney's office is not part of the executive branch prompted ridicule by many administration critics. Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a group that has been highly critical of the White House, suggested that Cheney is "attempting to create a fourth branch of the government." If he is not governed by executive branch security requirements, the group asked if he is covered by Senate rules.
Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.) said he plans to propose next week, as part of a spending bill for executive operations, a measure to place a hold on funds for Cheney's office and official home until he clarifies to which branch of the government he belongs. Emanuel acknowledged that the proposal is just a stunt, but he said that if Cheney is not part of the executive branch, he should not receive its funds. "As we say in Chicago, follow the money," he said.
Staff writer Shailagh Murray contributed to this report.
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I don't even feel that some of you are my countrymen....anymore than I feel that decider and Cheney are....when I read your dismissive comments. This must be confronted, halted, rolled back, and result in expulsions from office and criminal investigations. Do you think that any of us know to what extent that these bastards have broken the law and conspired to avoid discovery and investigation of their wrongdoing?
You do not even seem to want to find out...and that is a curious and a unacceptable reaction to events of the last 6 years and 8 months. Your descendants are going to wonder why. Waxman, Conyers, Kucinich, and Leahy deserve your full support through the remainder of this crisis. Give it to them. It is the appropriate thing to do, under these circumstances.