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Old 06-22-2007, 06:23 PM   #96 (permalink)
dksuddeth
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Originally Posted by roachboy
if you had your way, dk, and the american legal system could not adapt to changing conditions through the development of legal precedents in case law, the constitutional order that you fetishize so would have collapsed long ago. you cant have it both ways: you can't act as though "original intent" is a legitimate guide for interpreting the constitution and not accept that the result of this would be constitutional crises. each constitutional crisis would result in a new document, and each new document would reconsider the question of guns....

i am really not sure that you want to go down this road--it sounds like you have some totally different idea about what the consequences of "original intent" as a way of thinking about the constitution....how do you imagine that the result of that would work?
rb, we're going to have to agree to disagree. You seem to think that a legal document should ebb and flow with the changing tides of current events and the development of industrialization of the country. This theory alone should give people nightmares about constitutional crises.

If, however, you view legal documents as unchanging, unmoving, and inviolate then how does one have a crisis?

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Originally Posted by JinnKai
Will? Who wants to protect the rights of CRIMINALS to carry guns? Even the most pro-gun person I know wouldn't advocate criminal possession. BTW it's interesting you linked that story.. DK did too, above. He seems to have a slightly different take on it.
This is because Wills view of the situation is entirely based on the gun and that if said criminals just didn't have access to guns, they would be less inclined to commit crimes and hurt people. Wills view stipulates that if only guns were banned, a utopia would be around the corner and there would be no more violent crimes.

Female cop never had a shot

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June 22, 2007 -- An off-duty Brooklyn cop - who had left her gun at work - was caught defenseless when a masked intruder ambushed her as she arrived home and raped her at knifepoint, cops said yesterday.
Another thing that really pisses me off is this,
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Dozens of patrol cars and a police helicopter rushed to the scene, and detectives continued to scour the neighborhood with police dogs yesterday.
Had this been any average citizen as the victim, there would not be the response that this cop got.
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