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Originally Posted by host
...because of this tendency, described by Patrick Henry, in 1775:
....and dksuddeth, are we yet in a circumstance where we are required to take back our constitutional rights using any and all means, including using the arms that you have so consistently maintained are our right to possess, without restriction....and if not now, with congress unwilling or unable to attempt to remove the president from office, even in reaction to circumstances already abridging our guaranteed "freedoms", described in the OP, when then, and under what further aggravated circumstances?
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wow, i'm sorry host. I did not realize there was a comment directed to me or I would have responded earlier.
To answer that question directly, no. we are not yet in a circumstance where violence is necessary. We have an executive that is grabbing more power, usurping power that does not belong to that branch but the responsibility for that problem lies in both houses at this point. We can still elect new house members that will force things like censure/impeachment. We can still petition the courts for SOME things. If the house/senate members we elect to represent us, refuse to do those things, we must elect ones that will and THAT will require americans to actually use their brains and vote something other than the major parties. Otherwise, all we are doing is playing around the vicious circle of us v. them politics.
Trust me, you'll know full and well when it is the absolute time for violence and it will most likely start with medium scale violence initiated by the government against fringe groups.
here is a question for people. with the latest polls showing bush at 26%, but congress at 14%, who do we really have issue with? and what should we do about THAT??