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Old 06-20-2007, 02:58 PM   #87 (permalink)
Cynthetiq
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
all you showed me in the state constitution was the authority to tax. You didn't show where it had the authority to regulate private travel. Only taxing vehicles as property.
really? you missed ALL of the CALIFORNIA and NEVADA items?

California Constitution
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SEC. 2. Revenues from fees and taxes imposed by the State upon vehicles or their use or operation, over and above the costs of collection and any refunds authorized by law, shall be used for the following purposes:
(a) The state administration and enforcement of laws regulating the use, operation, or registration of vehicles used upon the public streets and highways of this State, including the enforcement of traffic and vehicle laws by state agencies and the mitigation of the environmental effects of motor vehicle operation due to air and sound emissions.
Nevada Constitution
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Section 5. Proceeds from fees for licensing and registration of motor vehicles and excise taxes on fuel reserved for construction, maintenance and repair of public highways; exception. The proceeds from the imposition of any license or registration fee and other charge with respect to the operation of any motor vehicle upon any public highway in this State and the proceeds from the imposition of any excise tax on gasoline or other motor vehicle fuel shall, except costs of administration, be used exclusively for the construction, maintenance, and repair of the public highways of this State. The provisions of this section do not apply to the proceeds of any tax imposed upon motor vehicles by the Legislature in lieu of an ad valorem property tax.
The states are responsible for the public roads. You are free to privately travel. You are not being witheld from travel because you are not allowed to operate a motor vehicle.

Because of this thread I relistened to Michael Badnarik, Class on the Constitution because he specifically talks about not registering his vehicle and not having a driver's license in the state of Texas.

He details a situation where he is pulled over and what it entailed.

I don't disagree with you fundamentally on where the rights originate from for them to be able to regulate this or regulate that. But, I'm a practical man. I'd rather be happy than right. It's easier for me to pay the fees and get the registration, than sit on the side of the road every so often for an hour or so being questioned etc.

A possible weekend ruined because you had to be stopped by the police. Recently it SCOTUS decided that the rights of the passenger were also seized during a stop. So being pulled over with a car full of your friends or family infringes upon them. Hey, great. If that happened time and time again when we hung out. I'd have to stop hanging out with you since it's just annoying. Again, I'd rather be happy than right. Makes me stupid? Maybe in your book.
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