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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
But YOU get to decide that I don't have a right to keep and bear arms? double standard much?
and again, [B]I[/] didn't decide what rights you have. The framers gave you ALL of your rights, not just the ones that are considered 'safe'.
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If it were just me, that'd be hypocritical. I'm arguing this because there is absolutely no legal precedence for driving to be a right, and the law makes it pretty clear that it's not a right. That's what you're arguing against. You're arguing against judges. You're arguing against laws. Not only that' but you're arguing against the vast majority of people, not just on TFP but in general. Besides 16 year olds, I doubt you'll find many people who think driving should be a right. You're all alone on this one. And, as you said, I don't get to decide. Neither do you.
As for the double standard: I'm arguing against things that aren't rights. That's consistency.
Either way, I'm doing everything I can to 1) keep people reasonably safe by ensuring that there is less danger (think Virginia Tech for gun control, and Paris Hilton for DUI) and 2) do my best to interpret the law.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
again, YOU get to decide that it's not? There isn't a legal or moral entitlement to have a house to live in either, yet YOU want to make one!?!?
What you're really trying to say, will, is that YOU know whats best for everyone and the right to drive isn't one of them. Am I right?
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Nope, I'm echoing everyone else. You're sitting alone saying that you know what's best for everyone. I'm sitting with everyone and agreeing that we're deciding what's best for everyone. That makes my stand democratic, and yours anarchist.
Also, I hope you see the irony in your presuming we've taken opposite arguments between this and gun control. If, by your deduction, I am being hypocritical by switching arguments with you, then you also are being hypocritical. Ironic.