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Originally Posted by Telluride
The idea that serving society is good and/or should take priority over one's right to his or her time is a political/philosophical view. Political/philosophical views absolutely should not be forced on students.
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Translation: kids should be able to grow up selfish. I wonder why we invade other countries for oil...
or it is a political stand against doing work? Are you really going to sit there and defend laziness with anarchy? I don't mean any disrespect, but I've not heard of anything like that since the kids in HS who I bought my weed from.I would hope you're not fighting for a kid's right to be lazy.
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Originally Posted by Telluride
I'm not convinced that civilization will to crumble just because schools aren't allowed to loan out students as free labor to pick up garbage or wipe peoples' butts at a convalescent home.
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Civilization will see the benefits of requiring kids to learn about language, arts, maths, sciences, and civics. If you skip one of those, the kids are going to be deficient in some way. Part of being a part of a collection of more than one person is realizing that on many levels our fates are intertwined with the people around us. If you live as an island, no one will benefit from you and you won't benefit from anyone else. That's called stagnation.
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Originally Posted by Telluride
The former is the choice of the parents. The latter is academic education, not forced volunteerism ordered by bureaucrats with a political agenda.
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Besides a 'political agenda' by 'bureaucrats' are there any other strawmen you want to shoot by us here?
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Originally Posted by Telluride
I'm not convinced that kids need to learn this stuff. I have a few reservations about teaching my kids that they are effectively owned by their neighbors and local politicians.
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If you saw someone who had been hit in a hit and run, would you pull over and help them? If you answer no, you're a bad person (unethical, immoral, possibly a coward) and someday when someone helps you selflessly, I hope you figure out the whole selflessness thing. If you answer yes, then why not teach your kids the same values?
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Originally Posted by Telluride
You could use that argument to defend a military draft. They learn a skill, serve their country, etc.
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Name me a volunteer program for kids that involves the risk of IEDs. None? Apples, meet oranges.