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Old 06-19-2007, 01:41 PM   #36 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by seretogis
This post reads as two posts. The first half, I agree with -- we are giving away our rights by meant of silent obedient consent. The second half, I disagree with -- we need not wrestle our rights back from the government only to give them away again for free healthcare, corn subsidies, and a socialized education system. You have the first part right, but I don't think you realize how the second leads to the failures in the first.
The second part is quite simple, we learn from our mistakes. We've tried a socialized/subsidized system.... it became corrupt and bureaucratized (is that a word), then we tried and are in the greed/everyone out for themself fuck everyone else system and it has led the way to poor schools, a healthcare system that is broken, huge gaps between classes with the middle class being squeezed into nothingness.

There has to be a middle ground where we can help farmers make a profit without having to charge $4.00 for a gallon of milk, the average household making roughly $35,000, college tuitions becoming outrageous with very little government help, and so on.

What do we pay taxes for, if not to build a social safety net so that others may succeed? However, one needs to be accountable.

I see at detox people coming in that could work but are on disability because they had good lawyers and families with money and I see people who need disability, that are truly fucked up and can't get a penny because they don't have the money for a lawyer.

I see tremendous waste and abuse in the college I go to, but then when the money is needed for the students who are truly there for the rights reasons, it's gone.

I believe we can have a slimmer more efficient government but we need to get rid of the abuse and waste and put in controls so those that need the services and can get them, not just the people who know how to play the game or have money somewhere to get the lawyers to abuse the system.

Those that abuse should be forced to pay back with heavy fines that which they took.

Give more money back to the community from which the taxes came and let THE PEOPLE in those communities decide what needs they want taken care of, where they want to put the money, who they believe needs the funds.... not an out of touch Congress and President bought and paid for by big business and special interests.

Give the power back to the people and let the people decide. I believe that the people can decide and will do so more efficiently and recieve better results.

Step one is getting enough people to want the power back and being informed enough.... which we gravely lack because we don't educate our kids to know they have voices and need to stand up and be heard. Instead we were given greed and nice toys and Anna Nicoles and Paris Hiltons to take our sights off that which we need to see.

Step two is demanding and getting the power back.

Step three is giving honest and open debates, trying to find compromise, tearing down what doesn't work and rebuilding a more responsible, responsive, system that gives back to the whole not to the few.
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