Originally Posted by shakran

The only thing left for them is to claim they're here to defend us against an abusive government. But they (ahem) have just shot themselves in the foot over that one, because they aren't doing anything to stop this abusive government that we're enduring right now.

Even if you discount the fact that a rebellion will NOT work, you cannot discount the fact that the rebellion they claim to be preparing for is not happening despite the fact that the government is, according to them, doing things that require that rebellion.